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thecraig · ** Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 92 Location: SOUTHPORT

This is probably explained elsewhere but the more i read the more confused i get.
What is the differences (if any) to all the above and what is the basic thinking as to things worth trying?
Not looking for an in depth discussion just pointing in the right direction, as to where to start with it all etc.

Sorry for the stupid question but I want to start using a mix but dont know where to start or what the different types actually mean....

Thanks
Craig
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markymoan · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 15:11 Post subject:

SVO = streight veg oil be it corn, rapeseed ect out of a bottle from the shops
WVO = waste veg oil out of a deep fat fryer, dont use that Shocked

Bio = new or waste oil that has been processed into fuel not dissimlar to diesel and can be found on some garage forecourts
HVO,, isnt that Margarine Question

Hope that helps Very Happy

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thecraig · ** Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 92 Location: SOUTHPORT

Ok seems rather simple when you put it like that lol!!!!
So..... A good start would be say 20l of pure (thin as poss) veg oil in a full tank of diesel?
what adverse affects should I be looking out for?
And typicaly how long do they take to show? (or is it how long is a piece of string?)

Just trying to keep this as simple as possible for those of us who know absolutely nothing of the workings and compatabilities of diesel engines..... Give me vtec and i can do anything, diesel and I'm lost....... Confused

thanks again
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markymoan · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 17:53 Post subject:

Some run 50/50, side effects can be it will give your fuel tank the equivelent of colonic irrigation, so you will need a spare filter or 2 until the tank clears.
Another is it could run like a dog when cold.
Last but not least, your truck will smell like a mobile chippy Laughing

Tbh, with the high price of veg oil now you may as well run on Bio diesel Wink

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dxmedia · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 17:55 Post subject:

I'm running a 50% mix of SVO with diesel, have been for a couple of weeks, and I'd say :-

Engine is loads smoother

Power is down a little (similar to running 31" tyres over 29")

Fuel consumtion is up a tiny bit (probably getting over the lower power)

Carry a spare fuel filter in the boot, I've not had to change yet, but if there's an issues that would be my first port of call.

Legally you can use 2500L of veg oil per year thanks to Mr M G Barsteward.
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thecraig · ** Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 92 Location: SOUTHPORT

For refference... Where is the fuel filter and what is needed to change it at a roadside for example, I am a capable spanner monkey (allegedly) but have never worked on one of these or anything similar tbh.......

p.s. Part of the reason I am loving owning a Trooper is learning all this stuff, its all new to me and nothing like cars i have built before, so very exciting haha........ makes me sound quite sad.....
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dxmedia · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 18:10 Post subject:

If you pop the bonnet, the fuel filter is on the right hand side, kinda by the air filter. It can be changed with no tools (it should only be hand tight (but tight) ), but you might need a cloth or something around it to get it to move.

If your doing one properly, it's best to unbolt the 4 (i think) from the housing so you don't spill diesel over the engine bay, but road side, hey if it gets you going...

It's worth giving your trooper a full filter change now so that you know how they all fit. Milners do a kit for £11.75 inc vat which is the oil, air and fuel filters.

Oh changing the oil filter is a pain in the .... Very Happy

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thecraig · ** Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 92 Location: SOUTHPORT

what difference between sunflower and vegetable oils??
besides 10p per litre at my local aldi haha
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dxmedia · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 23:52 Post subject:

Palm oil causes huge amounts of deforistation, rape oil is kinda good, corn oil come from the mid west states, take your pick......
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Topvaux · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:41 Post subject:

Also worth noting is that rapeseed oil is the least viscous and nearest to DERV viscosoity and therefore you'll get nearer the same volume of delivery per squirt of the injector. I haven't noticed a performance drop and I use rapeseed and maybe that's why? Rapeseed, also, doesn't go waxy (solidify) in the cold like e.g corn oil does. Another point is, if you are being "green" about all this, rapeseed oil is grown locally wheresa there aren't so many palm trees in these latitudes. Price is becoming a problem, though.

dxmedia · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 13:08 Post subject:

I'm on corn at the moment, and it's kinda runny Very Happy

more like 3in1 oil than diesel, but goes through ok, not had any problems with waxing, but the 50% mix with diesel will stop that.

Paying 76.9 per litre round here, and Bio diesel is £1.10 (they pride them selves being 5p a litre cheaper than fourcourt !!!!!! so it's a no brainer, I'm currently saving about £18 a tank, so if I need to change the filter 1000 miles earlier, pah so be it.

Also for every tank of fuel I use, 40L of it doesn't come from the diminishing oil reserves....
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Topvaux · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 17:01 Post subject:

Just found rapeseed in 1ltr bottles at Lidl for £0.78 per litre. Bought a few boxes of 15 bottles.

Tescos have got some "green" fuel in at the moment.......... Grape seed oil - it's a lovely dark green colour! Bit dear at 80-odd pence but I had some for a laugh anyway!

markymoan · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 17:30 Post subject:

Veg is 78p at aldi but doesnt come boxed like the lidl stuff Laughing

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Dazer · * Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 13 Location: UK

Running 50/50 in a direct injection engine is likely to cause problems over time. For reliability you would need a two tank system.

The 3.1 indirect injection engine could run pure veg year round with the right modifications see-

http://wiki.obed.org.uk/index.php?title=PPO_single_tank_system
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dxmedia · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:41 Post subject: