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darren m ******
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 921 Location: nottinghamshire
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 14:01 Post subject: how do you start yours???? |
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just wondering how you owners of the 3.0 trooper start up in the morning .
just re-read my owners booklet and it states that you should depress and hold down both the clutch and throttle peddles before cranking the engine ..
does that sound like good advice , is it worth bothering and why .
thanks _________________ 93 SWB 3.1Turbo Duty intercooler
99 LWB 3.0 TD Citation
2000 LWB 3.0 / 3.1TD Duty conversion |
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Topvaux Lifetime member
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 934 Location: Dereham, Norfolk
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:57 Post subject: |
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Mine's auto so I can't oblige with the clutch, but I have an aversion to starting a cold engine on full throttle.......!
I just crank it with no throttle and it fires up idling, which I am sure is kinder to bottom end, camshafts and turbo bearings. Unless it's winter temperature I don't even bother to wait for the heater plugs because it takes a few seconds to get up pressure in the injector rail anyway and that seems to be enough for the plugs to heat up. In the winter I give it a few seconds heating but still no throttle. I've no idea why they say to floor the throttle....... |
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Peej Lifetime member
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 1562 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 18:59 Post subject: |
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I always depress the clutch too, always have, seems to make sense to me, less to churn over. _________________ Every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff from out of my brain.
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rallymarshall *******
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 1728 Location: somewere thereabouts
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 21:06 Post subject: |
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i always push the throttle right to the floor when cranking and then let it up just as it fires, i find it always starts better _________________ atb kevin
65 vauxhall mokka 1.6cdti 4x4 se
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dxmedia *******
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 4677 Location: Hope Valley
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 21:22 Post subject: |
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Topvaux wrote: |
Mine's auto so I can't oblige with the clutch, but I have an aversion to starting a cold engine on full throttle.......!
I just crank it with no throttle and it fires up idling, which I am sure is kinder to bottom end, camshafts and turbo bearings. Unless it's winter temperature I don't even bother to wait for the heater plugs because it takes a few seconds to get up pressure in the injector rail anyway and that seems to be enough for the plugs to heat up. In the winter I give it a few seconds heating but still no throttle. I've no idea why they say to floor the throttle....... |
Couldn't agree more - no oil pressure in the block when cranking so reving an engine which has just started is a very bad idea, unless you've a sump in the head (rover 214's with the honda engine ) _________________ For great insurance deals on 4x4s, imports and more, contact Adrian Flux :
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rallymarshall *******
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 21:31 Post subject: |
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i dont let mine rev when ive got the foot to the boards when cranking over, just as shes about to fire let go of the pedal _________________ atb kevin
65 vauxhall mokka 1.6cdti 4x4 se
66 vauxhall corsa vxr |
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the flower man *******
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1624 Location: north kent
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 0:44 Post subject: |
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rallymarshall wrote: |
i dont let mine rev when ive got the foot to the boards when cranking over, just as shes about to fire let go of the pedal |
do they turn over alot then? is it because the oil has to be thin enough and under presher to sort the injectors? _________________ presumption is the mother of all f**kups |
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:21 Post subject: |
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Cranking it on full throttle isnt a problem, the 3.0 wont start unless the oil pressure is up, also as rallymarshall says, its just to start it you dont rev the tatas off it as it fires _________________ |
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the flower man *******
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:50 Post subject: |
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ok mark i see. that is true of every motor though mate. shouldnt rev the nutts off any cold engine _________________ presumption is the mother of all f**kups |
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markymoan *******
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:55 Post subject: |
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What I do find funny is people pumping the throttle on a diesel before they start it _________________ |
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dxmedia *******
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:02 Post subject: |
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markymoan wrote: |
What I do find funny is people pumping the throttle on a diesel before they start it |
Or pumping the throttle on any car OOO best squirt through the erm ecu controlled injectors _________________ For great insurance deals on 4x4s, imports and more, contact Adrian Flux :
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TimBanham Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 1258 Location: Newark, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:45 Post subject: |
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I dip clutch but that is purely because I once forgot to check on an earlier car whether it was in gear or not _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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darren m ******
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 921 Location: nottinghamshire
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:17 Post subject: |
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does dipping the clutch at the same time actually preserve the engine any ??? _________________ 93 SWB 3.1Turbo Duty intercooler
99 LWB 3.0 TD Citation
2000 LWB 3.0 / 3.1TD Duty conversion |
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Topvaux Lifetime member
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 934 Location: Dereham, Norfolk
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:28 Post subject: |
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darren m wrote: |
does dipping the clutch at the same time actually preserve the engine any ??? |
No, but actually it is best practise to declutch when starting because the starter then doesn't have to churn a stiff, cold gearbox and, of course, it does take care of the accidental left-it-in-gear kangaroo jump! |
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