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2800cc TD 4JB1T engine oil change


 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 20:56    Post subject: 2800cc TD 4JB1T engine oil change Reply with quote

Hi guys, im new here and a BIG hello from me!! Smile
Please excuse me for joing the forum as i feel like a bit of cheeky sod for joining as i dont own an Isuzu, well.....not a whole one.
I have recently bought myself a Landrover 90 that has had this engine put in as a replacement engine (very common ive heard) and have overall so far been very impressed with its apparent strength and willingness to pull. I have, since purchase, run into a number of issues, but not really to do with the engine itself.....more like everything else but!!!LOL i can hear the laughing now!!

Anyways, enough chat. The purpose of this post is to accertain the oil volume (in litres) and correct viscosity etc (syth/non-synth) required after a filter change and i have tried in vain to trawl the existing posts but the majority seem to be regarding the 3.1 Bighorn and whilst i have read that they are essentially the same engine but tweaked i was hesitant to go with what i read until i had some concrete confirmation as it were.

Also lads, if i have placed this post in the wrong section/topic please forgive me and the same goes for the fact it may be already answered

I will learn the forum ropes as time passes by im sure, allbeit with a mods toe up my proverbial snorkel!

Cheers in advance Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 21:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello there, i too have a 90 with isuzu engine (engines currently in bits for re-build)
Anyway you want 10w40 oil and the book says its a 5.5 litre capacity, personally i have never been able to get more than 5 litres out of mine but buy 6 litres just incase (keep 1 lite in back of truck)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 23:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Matt_D

Was starting to think that nobody read these questions anymore!! Your info is valuable, thanks again.
While i "have you on the line"  notworthy  id like to know if you've ever had to tackle any works involving the injector pump? i have a quite bad leak on mine from the injector 'manifold' side of the pump. cant seem to find anyone that sells seal/gasket kits for them.....Sad

anyway, thanks again for the response
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 23:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry, just clocked that i veered right off topic there :S sorry
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 0:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the leak on your injection pump any fuel injection specialist should be able to get gaskets for you
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

thankyou Grandad,

do you think that i will have to actually go to the trouble of letting a specialist order these for me or will i be able to overhaul this myself, i feel tha i could probably mange a gasket change on this half of the pump at least.

Thanks for everybody's input BTW

Greatly Apreciated
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 14:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you do it yourself  it must be spotlessly clean and wash any parts in clean diesel blow dry or use paper not rag
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 14:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there again Grandad,

after trawlling the internet i have found a fairly comprehensive pictorial guide and if i'm honest it scared me!!
I have also located someone that can sell me a seal kit for around £25 + VAT, if i want a seal kit that is SVO/WVO compatible, its an extra £50!! bit gutted really as i was looking to this end in the future!! Shocked

To have the pump overhauled by someone else was in excess of £260 + VAT,  Rolling Eyes  dont know whether to succumb to that or have a crack my self?  quite interesting inside but shook my confidence a little when i saw all pictures and parts.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 14:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do i move this part of our conversation to the relevant section?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I have had experiences of diesel pumps, i had a leak on mine where the top section meets the body so i had it re-condition for around £300 inc VAT

To take off is a bit tricky apart from the wiring, fuel lines and the vacumn lines etc there is a 'L' shaped bracket holding the back of the pump to the block, three nuts holding the pump onto the timing housing one of which is a real PITA to get to, its the very bottom one btw and then the nut holding the pulley on.

Lock the fuel pump pulley with a bolt and undo the pulley nut first though, otherwise you will have troubles.

I'm giving my engine a full rebuild at the moment just waiting for new pistons so if you need any photos give me a shout and i'll email them to you.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 15:17    Post subject: Re: 2800cc TD 4JB1T engine oil change Reply with quote

LandUzu wrote:
Hi guys, im new here and a BIG hello from me!! Smile

Anyways, enough chat. The purpose of this post is to accertain the oil volume (in litres) and correct viscosity etc (syth/non-synth) required after a filter change and i have tried in vain to trawl the existing posts but the majority seem to be regarding the 3.1 Bighorn and whilst i have read that they are essentially the same engine but tweaked i was hesitant to go with what i read until i had some concrete confirmation as it were.


From memory, 5 liters is enough for the 4JB1T inclusive of oil filter change. Oil use is 15W40 and Mineral oil is perfectly fine unless you use in very cold temperature.

IMO, the 4JB1T is a better engine than the 4JG2-TC.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 18:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All - can anyone confirm what is the oil running pressure range of the Isuzu 2.8 Trooper 5 bar or 10 bar - I need to buy the relevant VDO Oil pressure gauge for my Defender 110 conversion - and what a car it is with thei super engine by the way! - tahnks to all Isuzu owners for the kind advice to all Land Rover Isuzu hybrids owners!

GG
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 18:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a seal kit from Diesel Bob, (google him) £39 + vat, Delivered next day.
The pump will be a Bosch VE type. I tried a Bosch service centre but "We don't do parts, You'll have
to order them from Isuzu".
The seal I ended up fitting came from the bearing and agricultural dealer literally next door to them!
There isn't as much about the 2.8 as there is about other engines.  They are that good!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 19:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

my method for converting the landy to run on isuzu scale, was just add some chosen resistors into the wiring between sensor and gauge. it now reads on landy gauge just below the end of white mark when running, as with land rover. i did calculate the values and if im near the car at the weekend il tell u the resistor values, and colour codes if i can find them
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 19:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

after- re-reading that is actually irrelevant... sorry!
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