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anth.payne *
Joined: 02 Jan 2011 Posts: 36
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 20:02 Post subject: Novice to Offroading... |
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Hi all - newbie here, go easy
I've owned several 4x4 in the past including Pajero's, Pathfinder's - the latest being an Isuzu Trooper Bighorn 3.1td.
I'm now keen to start 'Offroading' and would like some first hand advice on where to start... was thinking of a day at a 4x4 centre initially, with a view to start green lanin regularly.
I'm up in Berwick, so would appreciate it if anyone could recommend anywhere to visit in the North East / Borders area? Or even any fellow members that wouldnt mind sparing a bit time?
More to the point, I also need to start thinking about some kit. Looking for some new wheels/tyres, but unsure what size to go for, or where to go? Also, what else do I need to start thinking about?
Less importantly, was looking at some roof racks and roof lights... just to tart it up a bit...? |
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adz1973 Lifetime member
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1908 Location: Co Durham
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 22:33 Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if you have any pay and play sites up Berwick way, i worked up by Dunbar a while ago and noticed a 4x4 centre sign advertising something, maybe tuition but not sure, i used to pass it on the A1.
Myself and Hillybilly Col go to Pea Farm but its in Stanley Co Durham so may be a bit far.
We have been green laning as far up as Wooler and was a great day out so should be plenty there for you to have some fun .
We go laning all over Northumberland so i can keep you posted if you fancy a day out sometime.
As far as wheels and tyres go, well theres plenty info advice/opinions on this , as a start most go for a set of tyres and upgrade to 265/75/16 which will go on your trooper alloys. Camskill are good for tyres. My first set were Kingpin muds and they were spot on and quite cheap.
After that, coil spacers for the rear and wind up the front torsion bars will give you 2" lift and wont need to do much else
A CB radio is a must for off roading and laning. also tow/recovery straps are handy as well.
Roof rack and lights, well if you can make stuff you can have anything you like.
Hope this helps. _________________
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adz1973 Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 22:34 Post subject: |
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And forgot to mention we get across to Drumclog twice a year as well for the weekend, great weekend away to. _________________
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anth.payne *
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adz1973 Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 23:02 Post subject: |
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A good set of AT's like grabbers are good, if you want a bit more then mud tyres, no need to go for insa special tracks as there to aggressive for what you'll need.
I have just got some maxxis buckshots and i'm happy with them, bit more road noise than road tyres but nothing to annoying.
Its a good reference site you have posted for wheels and tyres but in my opinion are too expensive.
Standard tyre size for the trooper is 245/70/16 and is 29" approx high, if you go to 265/75/16 these are approx 31 1/2 inches high which will lift your axles an inch or so which makes a good difference off road, bigger tyres are the only way to get your axle up.
Winch bumpers are like hens teeth second hand and very expensive new. _________________
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TrooperDan *******
Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Posts: 2337 Location: Near York, E Yorks
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 23:20 Post subject: |
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For Greenlaning I always say to first timers, a standard 4x4 will do most lanes in UK, even with AT tyres. So no need to spend money before you try it. Take a trip out with some peeps and enjoy it. Besides the fact you should never go out alone there would always be someone to pull you out of the odd muddy bit After your first trip out you will then be hooked, then will come a pay and play site where you will not believe what your standard car can do. At this point restraint will not be an word you recognise any more and tyres, sussy lift etc will not come fast enough Enjoy |
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adz1973 Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 23:25 Post subject: |
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danny20202003 wrote: |
For Greenlaning I always say to first timers, a standard 4x4 will do most lanes in UK, even with AT tyres. So no need to spend money before you try it. Take a trip out with some peeps and enjoy it. Besides the fact you should never go out alone there would always be someone to pull you out of the odd muddy bit After your first trip out you will then be hooked, then will come a pay and play site where you will not believe what your standard car can do. At this point restraint will not be an word you recognise any more and tyres, sussy lift etc will not come fast enough Enjoy |
Yep, thats how it all starts _________________
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anth.payne *
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 23:29 Post subject: |
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I'm in for a ride then! no punn intended
Any decent reference site on suspension lift? Wondering of new shocks/springs would be better than spacers? Was thinkin of replacing them anyway.
Where's best to look for wheels/tyres? |
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adz1973 Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 23:37 Post subject: |
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You'll be able to get all the info etc on suspension from this club.
4x4at arent to bad for wheels, tyres are expensive, keep a watch on flea bay to.
I went to www.camskill.co.uk for my tyres, very competative. _________________
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gary820 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 2427 Location: Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 22:23 Post subject: |
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As already said your stock truck will be perfectly fine for most lanes. The most important things you need are good recovery points front and rear, some decent rated recovery straps/ropes (not a halfords tow rope) atleast one other truck to go with. If your totally new to going laning and offroading (2 different things) you don't need to worry about lifting your suspension and fitting big mt's etc etc, the Trooper is quite good out of the box, just go out and give it a try. Most people who mod them do so as they've found the limits and want to go further. _________________ landcruiser 80 series 4.5, 35's/33's for road, 2inch lift, discreet winch, sliders/armour, factory lockers, stainless side exit +++++ |
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hillbilly col Lifetime member
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 2377 Location: Co. Durham
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:47 Post subject: |
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as gary has said..you'll do fine in standard truck.....i was very surprised at how mine faired when i 1st fot it
took it down to my 1st club meet at buildwas in standard trim with road tyres on and managed quite well in some very sticky stuff...it even got through the pond no probs
if distance isn't a prob like adam has said have a trip down to pea farm for a bit play...that's how we started
unfortunately after my trip to buildwas and seing keith and twisters trucks that's when my mod list started and never seems to stop growing...... tried to get them to help pay for my mods as i said it was their fault ...but nothing doing
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anth.payne *
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:39 Post subject: |
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As they say - shy bairns get nowt!
Distance no problem, will have to try and get down next time, or at worst, the time after |
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