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Diesel & LPG - Possible or not ?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 14:40    Post subject: Re: Supplier Reply with quote

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These are the suppliers of bits I have used for the LPG conversions I have done.

http://www.tinleytech.co.uk/lpgsys.html

I have only ever done petrol conversions but there is a bit on diesel LPG at the bottom of the page.

nice one, looks very tempting Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 14:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rules have changed on lpg certification recently as well - its an online database that your insurance company can see.

If you declare it it must be on the database not the old certificate system that never used to get checked  Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 14:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The rules have changed on lpg certification recently as well - its an online database that your insurance company can see.

If you declare it it must be on the database not the old certificate system that never used to get checked  Crying or Very sad

does it greatly affect insurance then? Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 15:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think it increases the cost much but they want it certified if you declare it and I doubt they would be happy if you have an accident with it undeclared.

Any excuse not to pay out is what I hear but I have never tried to claim so wouldn't know, someone else may  Question
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 15:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wonder what the mot centre would say if it was unregistered or undeclared?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 21:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a great job, there's an A3 on you guys side of the water running silly power with it fitted. I'm looking at building a big power diesel Merc this summer and will definitely be going down the lpg route if I do
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 21:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to drag up an old(ish) thread... I've just come back from Aus and Diesel/LPG is just starting to pick up pace over there, partly because it still carries a Govt subsidy to the tune of $1500+!

Try having a look at Diesel Gas Australia, on their Technical section (Would have posted the site but the system doesn't let me yet) over there who explain it quite well. Also have a look on the 4WD Action website/forum as well, as there may some bits on there.

Certainly would be interesting combining it with WVO for a complete burn in a 3.1 (which is what I'm thinking about)

Good to see that you guys talk about this; the Big T guys were very dismissive of it all!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 21:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza2541 wrote:
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I didn't even know a gas/derv conversion was possible. Sounds great if its cost effective Smile


It works different to petrol engines.
In a diesel conversion, the lpg is used to aid combustion of diesel not replace it. Kinda like a chemical spark-plug.
It is expected to make a 30% difference to fuel comsumption, with the majority of the gains coming from a more complete burn of the diesel in the chamber.


Why would the introduction of petrol into the diesel not perform the same task of giving a cleaner burn as would gas !!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 21:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did look into propane injection, seems it give loads more BHP  Cool
There is also the CNG option (compressed natural gas) but at the moment only a few big  firms use it, Warbutons being one and they have there own system to compress it from the normal gas mains.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 21:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicerass wrote:
bazza2541 wrote:
Slate wrote:
I didn't even know a gas/derv conversion was possible. Sounds great if its cost effective Smile


It works different to petrol engines.
In a diesel conversion, the lpg is used to aid combustion of diesel not replace it. Kinda like a chemical spark-plug.
It is expected to make a 30% difference to fuel comsumption, with the majority of the gains coming from a more complete burn of the diesel in the chamber.


Why would the introduction of petrol into the diesel not perform the same task of giving a cleaner burn as would gas !!

Lower Cetane, you can run up to 20% petrol but the burn is not clean and you lose power.
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