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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 16:06    Post subject: mk 1 starter motor Reply with quote

I know there's only a few members I can aim this at so...

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got in the truck this morning went to the local tip shut it off, unloaded, saw a better spot (ment I didn't have as far to carry stuff)
re-started, moved, shut down finished unloading, went to start and,.... click,.... each turn of the key same result, click... gave the starter and solenoid a thwak with the jack handle while the tip man worked the key... still nothing. so the nice men at the tip gave me a push to the ramp,  as soon as speed up 2nd gear pop the cluch and away it went. I live on a hill/ gradient so when I got home shut it off, went to restart,..click.

I should mention the tip I was at was a 50 miles away from home so had enough time to recharge a dead battery.(which I don't think this is) put the meter on it and its 14.4v
I will take the starter motor off at the weekend to check it but other than that...


I'm open to suggestions guys... neal were are you buddy?   Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 16:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

New starter ... should be the same as the 3.1 which is fortunate.

They can be stripped, cleaned and reassembled. Did that to the one on the Mk.II. Was stuck in a field. Took it off (don't know why people winge and moan like a bunch of pansies saying it is impossible without airguns and ramps and specialist tools), stripped/cleaned/reassembled it. Slapped it back on and works a treat. Was gunk and *beep* stopping the bushes hitting the stator.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 16:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

its coming off at the weekend for a better look anyway,

it just caught me out as I wasn't expecting it  Very Happy

will get back to you after its been cleaned and replaced on the  truck  

ok neal cheers dude
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 16:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yours is a 2.8 TD isn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 19:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

was outside trying to get the pig off...

yes neal 2.8td two bolt starter
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 16:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found putting a couple of long extensions together and undo from underneath helped when the bolts were tight on my old 1.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 18:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi lenny, been underneath it today and managed to get the starter off, an yea, a long extension and some extra leverage on the ratchet handle did the job.
stripped it all down boy what a mess in there. I think its shot to be honest, but got it back together and back on the truck......it wanted to turn over but
the battery seemed like it hadn't got the energy?

maybe time for a new battery, despite what I said earlier   Rolling Eyes

at least I know the starter is clean inside, but while under there I noticed the crank seal has gone and also the steering pump input shaft seal...  the joys of owning a mk1  Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 23:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I did mine I tested it off a known good battery off the car.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 16:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK,  its fixed,  got hold of a 3.0l starter motor their exactly the same  as the 2.8  Very Happy  

old one off and new one on in half an hour, starts better than before  Cool

cheers to trooperdan for the offer to send one this way  thumbup
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 16:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there is something on the 3.0 that they didn't redesign and balls up then Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 17:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes matey... but don't tell the 3.0l boys  Laughing  Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 17:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Nick & Neil!
Is the starter the same as my 3.0?
Mine has a problem with the pinion shaft clutch, its letting go about once every 5 hits, so don't want to fit it as its a cow to do due to access and 3.0 junk getting in the way  Very Happy
Do you know if parts are available? If its the same as the Mk1 there's a chance...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 18:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update!
Firstly, the (starter) clutch sub-assembly is available as a seperate part, our Chinese brothers supply them, I've got a trade account with a Chinese wholesaler, and they sell single units for about US$ 10....bulk orders as low as US$2 each! How they do this is beyond belief, doubt the quality is the same as Hitachi though....
I've soaked mine in brake cleaner for a while, and its now working perfectly, just gave it a quick dose of spray grease, seems perfect  Laughing
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