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02Trooper777 · **** Joined: 08 May 2016 Posts: 488 Location: Shropshire

Back to the job in hand. [Never thought it would take this long ... am definitely 'loosing the will to live']

Neighbour (Discovery owner ...) came round because we had found a PDF describing the workings of the immobiliser.
Armed with Tech2 we decided to reset the immobiliser (as nothing else had worked so far).
[Expected to reset it and the re-program keyfob in order to try a start.]

Armed with VIN - plus Security Code and Key number we tried.

Tech2 insisted we were working on a petrol engine and would not give an option to change to Diesel !!!

Then it stated that in order to reprogram the immobiliser we HAD to link to TIS !!
At that point we gave up for the day.

PS - We have managed to clear the immobiliser ECU memory and ignition key - so we are even further from starting.
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02 3.0 Trooper
Saab 9-3 2.3i convertible.(to be sold)
BMW 540i/6 1939 HRG 1100
1986 Saab 900 Turbo. '84 Marlin Roadster.
+ motorcycles & '76 Reliant Kitten (don't laugh - it has got 4 wheels)...

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eithan h · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 20:15 Post subject:

it normally warns you the vehicle won't start before you reset the immobiliser

02Trooper777 · **** Joined: 08 May 2016 Posts: 488 Location: Shropshire

It did ... but there were other unresolved major 'problems' ...
that caused us to "give up" - defeated and puzzled.

We were in the "Body" section trying to reset the immobiliser first.

Why did it think my 4JX1 was a "gasoline engine" ? We had never 'told' Tech2 what fuel the Trooper used.

It only gave the two petrol-engined options - no diesel ... [bearing in mind it has its original 4JX1 ECU, immobiliser ECU and key/transponder ]
Why did we not get any option to choose diesel?

When finally [slightly unexpectedly ...] a screen came up suggesting "Diesel" - and we clicked on it to Confirm [ ... thinking we were getting somewhere]
did Tech2 come back with "Reset failed" ?

Perhaps the answer is the Chinese Tech2 clone is unreliable after all ?
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02 3.0 Trooper
Saab 9-3 2.3i convertible.(to be sold)
BMW 540i/6 1939 HRG 1100
1986 Saab 900 Turbo. '84 Marlin Roadster.
+ motorcycles & '76 Reliant Kitten (don't laugh - it has got 4 wheels)...

eithan h · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 19:38 Post subject:

odd i'll have to look at one using ours and see what that says

but your now going to need tis to get it all reprogrammed, if you can get it to us and leave it with us for a few days i'll try and slip it in in between jobs

02Trooper777 · **** Joined: 08 May 2016 Posts: 488 Location: Shropshire

Very kind of you to offer - I'll have to think about it only because I'm quite along way away!

[WE - the royal WE - obviously thought wrongly that given all the security data/key and VIN number we could use Tech2 to "Reset the immobiliser" and then reprogram the key] But a reset is not possible without TIS.
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02 3.0 Trooper
Saab 9-3 2.3i convertible.(to be sold)
BMW 540i/6 1939 HRG 1100
1986 Saab 900 Turbo. '84 Marlin Roadster.
+ motorcycles & '76 Reliant Kitten (don't laugh - it has got 4 wheels)...

02Trooper777 · **** Joined: 08 May 2016 Posts: 488 Location: Shropshire

Blast ! Wanted to edit my typo "along" to "a long" - but the Edit facility has disappeared again.

Didn't even appear briefly.

Just for reference - on a Honda Goldwing forum I have joined the "Edit facility" is permanent not fleeting or non-existant.
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02 3.0 Trooper
Saab 9-3 2.3i convertible.(to be sold)
BMW 540i/6 1939 HRG 1100
1986 Saab 900 Turbo. '84 Marlin Roadster.
+ motorcycles & '76 Reliant Kitten (don't laugh - it has got 4 wheels)...

eithan h · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 18:02 Post subject:

its because theres options on what your coding i.e brand new blank ecu or update the original ecu or immobiliser and ecu hence the tech2 has to gain security clearance from tis and act as a pass through unless the card is big enough to hold the data from tis to reprogram it

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02Trooper777 · **** Joined: 08 May 2016 Posts: 488 Location: Shropshire

IT RUNS - at long last!!!

Finally gave up after wiping Immobiliser ECU and finding the TIS with the clone Tech2 would only recognise North American VIN formats ...

So ... Had it shipped down to eithan at Old Mill Motors.

Eithan found the replaced 'good' flywheel sensor was actually intermittent and therefore duff ...
Fitted a new one and it started.

On road test it put on the EML and he discovered alternator was chucking 16v out !

I have sent down an ultra-low mileage [500 miles] 90amp alternator - so fingers crossed.

Eithan is definitely a star in my books.
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02 3.0 Trooper
Saab 9-3 2.3i convertible.(to be sold)
BMW 540i/6 1939 HRG 1100
1986 Saab 900 Turbo. '84 Marlin Roadster.
+ motorcycles & '76 Reliant Kitten (don't laugh - it has got 4 wheels)...

02Trooper777 · **** Joined: 08 May 2016 Posts: 488 Location: Shropshire

What a mega-nuisance it is that the Edit facility has done a bunk.
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02 3.0 Trooper
Saab 9-3 2.3i convertible.(to be sold)
BMW 540i/6 1939 HRG 1100
1986 Saab 900 Turbo. '84 Marlin Roadster.
+ motorcycles & '76 Reliant Kitten (don't laugh - it has got 4 wheels)...

02Trooper777 · **** Joined: 08 May 2016 Posts: 488 Location: Shropshire

No response to my comments or post about the 'Edit facility ' having disappeared.

Collected the now-running Trooper from wizard eithan at Old Mill Motors yesterday.

First ever drive was the drive home.
Goes well BUT I was slightly surprised that the clutch engages so very high up on the travel.
It is a new Excedy 3-part clutch. Not sure if this is normal? as I've not driven another one before[/u]
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02 3.0 Trooper
Saab 9-3 2.3i convertible.(to be sold)
BMW 540i/6 1939 HRG 1100
1986 Saab 900 Turbo. '84 Marlin Roadster.
+ motorcycles & '76 Reliant Kitten (don't laugh - it has got 4 wheels)...