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3.0TD rough running on initial start up


 
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 13:09    Post subject: 3.0TD rough running on initial start up Reply with quote

Well after reading all the horror stories on this engine I went a bought a 2003 Trooper, with the 3.0TD!! so the problem is on a 1st start in the morning its rough as anything with the revs hunting up and down and will cut out, once you've got through this with 3 or 4 starts it settles down and once up to temperature it seems fine?

Is just had an engine oil and 2 filter change with Vauxhalls 2/30 fully synthetic C3/SN oil, any ideas would be great!
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 13:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

The oil should read 5/30 fully synthetic!
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 18:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

orps i would think
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 10:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply, I thought that might be the case, going to check through some of the other stuff like injector harness plug, MAP sensor and EGR while its in bits
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 17:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

So ive worked through some of the easy bits like MAP/EGR and the injection harness which hasn't cured the problem but when it runs its better, just out of interest the MAP sensor is pretty common with a few different part numbers including GM 16235939 & 97180655 which was used on Astra/Corsa 1.7DTI, the injector harness plug was pretty messy with old oil so that got a good clean

Ive ordered the ORPS sensor so hopefully that will sort it!
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 17:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

New ORPS sensor arrived and fitted, not got access to Tech 2 at present for setting up but the starting from cold problems are still with me!

So the problems are hard initial starting, a bit smokey once it goes and then a real lumpy hunting idle, if you try and drive off it will cut out but restart, once its warmed up it seems fine??

I may try the topping up the oil level over the max just to rule out the pickup problem?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 19:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need 2 litres past the max level to rule out strainers also try a different fuel supply bypassing the filter housing
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 17:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that info, well it does seem better with the extra 2ltrs, so to get to the pick up pipes is it just the small steel sump that needs to come off?

Thanks for your help so far on this!
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 18:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and just silicone for the gasket but remember to put a smear around the new seals
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