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02Trooper777 ****
Joined: 08 May 2016 Posts: 488 Location: Shropshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 0:09 Post subject: Airbag light ??? |
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Came on when returning home from Old Mill Motors.
I haven't got/cannot see any airbag wiring under the seats. (No airbags in seat sides)
Have checked the wires and plugs in the steering wheel airbag and they seem OK.
Could it be the wiring to seat pre-tensioners that cause this light to come on ?
It occasionally goes off but comes back within a mile or two - no rhyme or reason. [Classic intermittent electrical symptoms?] _________________ 02 3.0 Trooper
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ladydriver ****
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:39 Post subject: |
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Try looking to see whether they are tucked under the carpet under the seat, the plugs are yellow and usually just need breaking and remaking. _________________ JDW
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eithan h Moderator

Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 15:02 Post subject: |
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it will record a fault code which your tech2 can read but most likely one of the pretensioners |
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02Trooper777 ****
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 15:52 Post subject: |
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Thanks eithan.
I will find the Tech2 and have a look.
It might be a silly question BUT - I know mine has pretensioners but did all Troopers (in 2002) actually have "airbag wiring" under the seat as implied by other owners or are we talking about the same thing ?
I have found plugs under seat and foam moulding near the front outer corners of each seat. Don't remember seeing a "yellow one" ?
Understand that pretensioner wiring 'issues' will put on the "Airbag light".
There are stainless steel(?) clips on the pretensioner connectors so I will remove and check. [After disconnecting the battery and waiting ...]
Steering wheel airbag wires are OK on visual inspection.
[Must look at wiring diagram in multi-page manual to see where I can check for continuity.] _________________ 02 3.0 Trooper
Saab 9-3 2.3i convertible.(to be sold)
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02Trooper777 ****
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 15:56 Post subject: |
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ladydriver wrote: |
Try looking to see whether they are tucked under the carpet under the seat, the plugs are yellow and usually just need breaking and remaking. |
Thanks. Will look again. _________________ 02 3.0 Trooper
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eithan h Moderator

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 17:49 Post subject: |
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all 3.0l troopers have the pretensioner wiring which is part of the airbag system and it's the plugs that everyone goes on about, probably tucked under the carpet |
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02Trooper777 ****
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 18:34 Post subject: |
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Progress.
Tech2 says that the passenger seat pretensioner is at fault.
Will check tomorrow in daylight. _________________ 02 3.0 Trooper
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02Trooper777 ****
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 16:44 Post subject: |
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At last !
Found THE yellow plug hidden under the passenger seat carpet [area was dry and clean].
BUT even after fiddling it has not altered the airbag light so will next check other connections to the harness and the pretensioner itself. _________________ 02 3.0 Trooper
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eithan h Moderator

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 19:48 Post subject: |
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the wires break where the stainless clip is on the actual pretensioner itself |
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02Trooper777 ****
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 0:10 Post subject: |
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Sincere thanks - again.
I'll check and let you know. _________________ 02 3.0 Trooper
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02Trooper777 ****
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 14:29 Post subject: |
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eithan - you were correct AGAIN ....
Sure enough the blue wire had broken just where it enters the red plug on the pretensioner - as had the outer black insulation ...
and the brown wire was soon to break.
Undid the yellow plug, [and removed the brown plastic 'fir-tree' support on the seat frame] took the wire into the garage and cut off very close to the end.
Re-soldered with a small iron, brown wire to central pin, blue wire to one end of the tiny copper winding.
If you are doing this and your soldering is not good - take it to a mate !
Plugged it all back together and no airbag light.
Mind you - as the wire has to flex every single time you move the passenger seat forward on a two-door - it might not last long ! _________________ 02 3.0 Trooper
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02Trooper777 ****
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 14:32 Post subject: |
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Note to self :-
Look for a very flexible replacement pair of wires. I can sort the outer insulation. _________________ 02 3.0 Trooper
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1986 Saab 900 Turbo. '84 Marlin Roadster.
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 21:33 Post subject: Airbag warning light on |
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Hi.
Checked yellow connector under passenger seat..imposs for a right handed person to get to.
Gave up
Moved to drivers side..with great difficulty got connector disconnected.
Gave both halfs scoosh of electrical cleaner aerosol.
Miracle ..groping around..got two pieces connected.
Ignition on..Airbag light on.
3 seconds later..light off.
Bonzer..chuffed to bits.
This forum is beyond brilliant!
DAB. |
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