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StormTrooper *
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 32 Location: Southeast, US
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:16 Post subject: Clutch won't disengage properly |
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Hey all,
I have an 88 Isuzu TrooperII 2.6litre petrol 5-speed. I just recently (as in today) replaced the Clutch master cylinder and clutch slave cylinder. I don't seem to have any leaks anywhere, and I have bled the lines three or four times. However, it seems like the clutch won't fully disengage. For instance if I put it in reverse it will grind a bit, or while driving it's hard to get it into the next gear. Would a bubble in the fluid cause this? Any thoughts will be appreciated. |
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brains ******
Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 897
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:47 Post subject: |
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how are you bleeding it? |
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StormTrooper *
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 32 Location: Southeast, US
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:52 Post subject: |
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My clutch hydraulic system has three main parts. The master cylinder (just replaced), some sort of dampening system box, and the slave cylinder (just replaced).
The dampening box has a bleed screw, so I man that. So with a helper in the seat, I open the bleed screw, tell the helper to press the clutch, I close the bleed screw, and tell the helper to depress the clutch. Then I repeat the process until I see no bubbles purging at the damper box.
I then go below the 'suzu and man the bleed screw there. I open the screw, tell the helper to press the clutch, I close the screw and tell the helper to depress the clutch, and repeat the process until I see no apparent bubbles. Not sure if that is correct, but it was how I was taught |
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brains ******
Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 897
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:59 Post subject: |
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sounds right ..............try again but this time just open the bleed nipple on the slave cylinder and let me know how you get on. |
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StormTrooper *
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 32 Location: Southeast, US
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:20 Post subject: |
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alright, will do that tomorrow, I have retired on it for the evening. Question, how many repetitions should I go through to ensure there are no bubbles still in the system? BTW, thanks for the info mate |
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wayneh *****
Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Posts: 622 Location: leicestershire u.k
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:35 Post subject: |
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you need a piece of pipe off the bleed screw into a jar of clutch fluid, then just bleed as you have just described. this way you should get no air pulled back into the system |
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brains ******
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:51 Post subject: |
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did the same on a rover 600 not to long ago and as i blead the system it got better and better every time , in the end i think i did it in about 10 atempts untill it was right. |
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StormTrooper *
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 32 Location: Southeast, US
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:42 Post subject: |
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i didnt get the time to bleed it again today, but i did make a quick trip in it and it is feeling better, im going to bleed it again to see if I can get it any better.
Every once in a while the gears will grind going in, sound like low tranny fluid? |
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MartQ *****
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 505 Location: Bardney, Lincolnshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:32 Post subject: |
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If it's anything like a vauxhall clutch, you will probably have to pressure bleed it using something like an ezebleed system. You just can't do Vectra clutches without one, you'll be there for days with no results. _________________ 94 Big Horn 3.1 Lotus Auto
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jonkem ******
Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 883 Location: Bedfordshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:46 Post subject: |
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These can be a pig somtimes. I normally reckon on at least 10 cycles of pumping to be fairly sure of success. Your method of press & hold until the nipple is tightened is spot on so persevere. Good luck! _________________ 1994 KZJ70 Cruiser (currently filling the garage and causing some head scratching)
1988 MKI 3.1td Hybrid Van (Ex Bobtail)
1991 SWB Fronty 2.8td Hybrid
2000 Astra Estate (work)
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StormTrooper *
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 32 Location: Southeast, US
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:02 Post subject: |
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thanks guys, she is runnin top notch now, other than some light and wiring issues. Again thanks |
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