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Dread Lifetime member
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 6 Location: billingshurst
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 0:47 Post subject: Towing |
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Hi people.
I have just bought a new caravan, and pick it up in March. But have just been told that because it has a stabalizer in the tow hitch (alk-ko) I will not be able to hitch to the trooper (94) without taking the sparewheel off? have any of you had ,heard , or got over this problem? It sounds expensive to me.
Thanks, Dread. |
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brains ******
Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 897
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:32 Post subject: |
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rubbish m8 it goes no where near the spare ,the stableizer is conected to the tow bar with an aditional bracket bolted to the ball.
i think they are trying to sell you some more stuff that you dont need but you will need the stableizer to stop the caravan from weaving . |
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TimBanham Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 1258 Location: Newark, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:23 Post subject: |
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Actually I had real problems on mine
Go and buy yourself a 3/4 inch spacer and longer bolts from somewhere like halfords and put that on and you will have no problems. (only a couple of quid!)
Just make sure that you have cleaned the tow ball as dirty balls mess up the alko fitting
(Brian - for info the issue with the alko is that the handle is so long that when unhitched fouls the bottom of the spare wheel - no issue once connected) _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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Peter Bonnell *****
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 621 Location: Rotherham
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:31 Post subject: |
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Also make sure you get the AL-KO tow ball aswell , they stand further off than a standard one , I use a 2 inch spacer and have no problems at all |
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TimBanham Lifetime member
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:33 Post subject: |
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Peter Bonnell wrote: |
Also make sure you get the AL-KO tow ball aswell , they stand further off than a standard one , I use a 2 inch spacer and have no problems at all |
Good point - forgot the obvious! _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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Peej Lifetime member
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 1562 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:49 Post subject: |
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brian from telford wrote: |
rubbish m8 it goes no where near the spare ,the stableizer is conected to the tow bar with an aditional bracket bolted to the ball.
i think they are trying to sell you some more stuff that you dont need but you will need the stableizer to stop the caravan from weaving . |
Brian, the new Alko types operate directly on the tow ball, using the large handles to lock it, these when open interfere with the spare wheel. There are some 4x4's where it's very difficult to hitch up. I think coming in at an angle is a solution and I do believe you can get different locking handles which help ,though obviously you have to buy these! |
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Chris B Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 3537 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:18 Post subject: |
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Also ... if its the AL-KO type then make sure there is no trace of grease or oil on the ball - the stabiliser operates by clamping a set of nylon pads around the ball and relys on friction to operate correctly _________________ Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max LE | 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT LTM No.60
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TimBanham Lifetime member
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:47 Post subject: |
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You can remove the plastic part of the handle as well and this will remove the problem. _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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andrewk **
Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 101 Location: Oldham
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 14:54 Post subject: |
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TimBanham wrote: |
You can remove the plastic part of the handle as well and this will remove the problem. |
Alko sell a removable handle for about £28 which overcomes the problem completely, so I'm told. A 2ins spacer might solve the problem for you, as suggested earlier - but they can't be used with a post-98 Trooper, as they wouldn't have been tested with the tow bracket for EU approval.
I solved the problem in a different way - by buying a combination 50mm ball & pin rated at 3500kg. This stands off the tow bracket by about an inch more even than the Alko towball. It creates a problem too, as the ball is galvanised - which makes the Alko stabiliser screech - so you'll need to sand all the zinc off the ball. It took me a few hours with some medium/fine wet & dry - now quiet, but starting to rust _________________ 2000 LWB 3.0D Citation |
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TimBanham Lifetime member
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Chris B Lifetime member
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 16:18 Post subject: |
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I get away with a normal AL-KO ball and a small 3/4" spacer, back up to the caravan then open the rear door before coupling up ... it gives me enough room to hitch up then drop the stabiliser handle and shut the back door. It is a case of weighing the job up carefully as it misses by a few inches. _________________ Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max LE | 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT LTM No.60
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Richardhw Lifetime member
Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 96 Location: Retford
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 0:25 Post subject: |
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It also depends on the model of stabiliser mine is an alko 1300 which only has a short handle so no problems at all,although I dont believe it is as good as the ones with the longer handles (something to do with the friction pads) |
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drmuir Lifetime member
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 83 Location: GLASGOW
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:03 Post subject: |
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you can buy a replacement handle from towsure much shorter and removes once locked down makes job much easier .
Dougie . |
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Dread Lifetime member
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 6 Location: billingshurst
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 20:00 Post subject: Towing |
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Hi, Thank you to all.
Very good advice , have gone with the alk-ko towball and had a 1" steel spacer made longer bolts and have tried it on mates new van and it's close 3/8" with door closed as i can't get close to his van with door open! will have to see on the 16th if I got it right. if not the towsure advice seems to be good , THANKS AGAIN, NICE TO HAVE THIS CHANNEL OF GOOD ADVICE AND A FAIR BIT OF HUMAN COMMUNICATION.
Dread |
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