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TimBanham Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 1258 Location: Newark, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 14:57 Post subject: |
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Mine only takes a few cranks ( ) to start that is but thought I would ask _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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reborntrooper Lifetime member
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Peterborough England
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 20:22 Post subject: |
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Right done nothing to her yet but now starts every time on exactly 5 secs..........is this too long still???
Still the laughting stock at work especially since i also ride a motorbike 8) and was accussed the other day as to the only reason i was using the bike was because the car wouldn't start! |
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Hard1 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 3544 Location: New Forest Old Git
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 22:44 Post subject: |
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Sorry, can't contribute any wisdom here, but it reminded me how much things have changed. We now want to "touch" the button for it to start whilst many years ago, on a cold damp morning, you would be well chuffed if it went after about 15 mins of cranking, administrations of WD40 curses, burning incense, chanting and having the neighbours help bump start it.
And if you were unlucky enough to own a diesel in frosty weather it would be Easistart, burning rags, bonfires under the sump etc etc....
Progress is a wonderful thing. 5 seconds, heaven... _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
Click HERE to see under my bonnet! |
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drmuir Lifetime member
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 83 Location: GLASGOW
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 16:21 Post subject: |
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5 secs sounds about spot on . i spoke to isuzu direct when i bought my trooper new because like u it took about 5 secs to start they told me that was about right . |
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reborntrooper Lifetime member
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Peterborough England
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 21:48 Post subject: |
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Thnx Hard1 and drmuir reminds me why i like this site always a positive attitude towards any questions(and my ramblings)
Stuff the world and its oppinions I love my troopy and as my user name suggests i've come back to a newer but same old beast that gets your heart thumping on every trip out (Almost as much as a good blast on my motorbike )Perhaps I was expecting too much in the way of comparing it with my old car!
5 seconds it is then! |
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gary820 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 2427 Location: Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 22:05 Post subject: |
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shows things have changed! emmisions rules on new cars mean they have to start within the first full engine rotation!! |
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recoverytim Newbie
Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Bridport, Dorset
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:24 Post subject: |
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I too ended up putting new batteries in.... a mate told me to use nothing but 5w-30w oil otherwise it takes too long to fill up the common rail... It seems to have done the trick. But recently my truck has been really struggling to actually pick up when starting, a bit of a chug-a-chug-a-chug-achugachugchugchugchugchchchchchchchchchchchchVROOOOMMMMMMM.......
Any ideas? (hope you like that sound clip!) |
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Chris B Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 3537 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:26 Post subject: |
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Glow plugs? _________________ Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max LE | 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT LTM No.60
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UpAndOver Newbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 7 Location: NearAndover
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 13:34 Post subject: Starting issues |
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I still have my Trooper (98 s-reg) 3.0TD Citation. WIth the new engine fitted at 108,000miles I did not expect to have the same hard starting problems I was previously encountering. Probably 10+secs of cranking till it fires when cold. Plus some white smoke from unburnt diesel. New battery too.
So I've ordered the Hard Start kit from Milner and expect to get it fitted next week before the MOT re-test. It failed due to the leakage round the tank.
I will post my experience of starting after the fitting.
Jon
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glenos *
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Hobart, TAS, AU
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:55 Post subject: |
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I still have my Trooper (98 s-reg) 3.0TD Citation. WIth the new engine fitted at 108,000miles I did not expect to have the same hard starting problems I was previously encountering. Probably 10+secs of cranking till it fires when cold. Plus some white smoke from unburnt diesel. New battery too.
So I've ordered the Hard Start kit from Milner and expect to get it fitted next week before the MOT re-test. It failed due to the leakage round the tank.
I will post my experience of starting after the fitting.
Jon |
two words "GLOW PLUGS"
Mine was the same fitted some new glow plugs and it is a different truck. Crude test is to check the resistance between the connector on the firewall (near the windscreen wiper motor) and earth, should be 0.3 Ohm, anymore and you have dodgy glow plugs. _________________ 1998 3.0 Holden Jackaroo SE
www.jackaroo.australia4wd.com |
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UpAndOver Newbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 7 Location: NearAndover
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 18:15 Post subject: Starting issues |
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Many thanks Jackaroo!
I'll certainly get the Glow Plugs checked. Can they fail that quickly? New engine with glow plugs only a few hundred miles ago! And the main dealer wanted to replace the fuel tank to fix the leakage...
Jon |
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Topvaux Lifetime member
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 934 Location: Dereham, Norfolk
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 18:40 Post subject: |
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Interesting thread, this.
I have just sold my '99 3.0 and bought an '02 version.
The '99 was always slow to fire-up, probably taking about 4 seconds of cranking after operating the glow plugs. It also cranked a little slower than the specified speed when checked on TS2 and got no better with new batteries. It didn't bother me though because I was lead to expect it to be slow to start anyway.
The '02, on the other hand, spins over really quickly on the starter and starts in just 1-2 seconds - even if I turn the key straight to start and don't bother to wait for the glow plugs. OK, the weather's not cold just now, but even so.....!
The guy who bought the '99 then came on to tell me that he'd found a high resistance in the cable between the two batteries which he'd found when looking for the reason for the voltmeter showing no more than 13v. He says the cranking speed and start-up time have improved now he's fixed the cable.
Maybe relevant to you, Reborn? |
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Jack Newbie
Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Canberra, Australia
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:49 Post subject: |
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As far as the Glow Plugs goes, I replaced mine 12mths ago cause of the long starting times and plooms and plooms of white smoke (I was worried that the Fire Brigade would turn up each morning). It rectified the problem.
However come this winter, there are similar symptoms, without the white smoke though. I am curious if perhaps one or two of mine have spat the dummy, I will be checking with the multimeter today. However I am a little dubious that this is the problem, as there is a decent voltage drop when the ignition is turned on. |
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