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 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 18:36 Post subject: MOT problems, MK1, E reg, 2.8TD |
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My Mk 1 has failed its MOT on the items below. Can anyone tell me how easy it will be to fix them as I will be paying a garage to do the work, what kind of costs am I looking at with parts and labour?
1 Both Front wheel bearings excessive play.
2 Both lower suspension ball joints excessive play.
3 Poor brake efficency Service and parking brake, tester did say it would probably need rear brake shoes and handbrake will need adjusting. can anyone ever get these dashboard handbrakes to work correctly? Note it has the rear brake shoes as it has had a 2.8TD put into it. t was a 2.3TD.
Also I think it needs a clutch cable, it seems to have stretched, there is quite a bit of play on it, sometimes its hard to put it ino gear, How easy is it to renew the cable?
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Greenlaner
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markymoan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 19:18 Post subject: |
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About £150 for parts + labour at about 4hrs,
Unless they clean regrease and adjust the bearing, about the same labour but about £90 less for parts.
Dont let them give you all the 4x4 rubbish, the free wheeling hubs take a couple of mins a side to remove 
Clutch cable? mine is fluid
Umbrella handbrakes are a pain, just make sure you adjust the footbrake before the handbrake
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dxmedia
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 19:19 Post subject: Re: MOT problems, MK1, E reg, 2.8TD |
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My Mk 1 has failed its MOT on the items below. Can anyone tell me how easy it will be to fix them as I will be paying a garage to do the work, what kind of costs am I looking at with parts and labour?
1 Both Front wheel bearings excessive play.
These are adjustable bearings, take off the autohub, the retaining collar and there is an adjuster under that - put a drift in and hammer it round until it wont move, put back together and try again. If that doesn't work, you'll need new bearings - time to do both - 1 hour
2 Both lower suspension ball joints excessive play.
New ball joints - take off the wheel - take out the split pin, undo the castle nut, put a trolley jack about 2" below the lower wish bone, and give the casting around the ball joint a wack with a lump hammer, it will pop out, just bolt new one on. Time to do both - under 1 hour
3 Poor brake efficency Service and parking brake, tester did say it would probably need rear brake shoes and handbrake will need adjusting. can anyone ever get these dashboard handbrakes to work correctly? Note it has the rear brake shoes as it has had a 2.8TD put into it. t was a 2.3TD.
Strip and reassemble rear brakes - if you've never done it before - get a garage to, and ask to watch - then you can do it next time - they are the one thing you DON'T want to fail -- Saying that - I did a LWB frontera with drums this afternoon, adjusted them up in about an hour
Also I think it needs a clutch cable, it seems to have stretched, there is quite a bit of play on it, sometimes its hard to put it ino gear, How easy is it to renew the cable?
are they not a hydrolic clutch? If it is, bleed it. It might be cable, in which case there should be an adjuster by the bell housing, open the bonnet and have a look - it will be at the back of the engine to one side -- I think that they are hydrolic, if so, you'll see 2 resoviors on the bulk head, the big one is for brake fluid, the smaller one is clutch. On the slave cylinder there should be a bleed nipple - 8mm iirc (a bolt with a hole through it)Put a bit of rubber tube on the nipple and feed that into a jar or some sort of container. Put some brake fluid in another clean dry jam jar (about a cup full) take the top off the little resovior and loosed the bleed nipple so fluid just starts to come out, and keep topping back up until you've used the fluid in the jar. Tighten the nipple and that's the clutch gravity bled. If that doesn't help, the clutch might be on it's way out - have someone have a look at it
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Everything above is easy to do at home - people on here will help , but if you've never played with brakes, might be worth getting some help from someone who has -- safety first and all that...
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dxmedia
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 19:21 Post subject: |
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As Markymoan says, don't adjust from the handbrake - adjust at the rear end first, then just take up the slack with the handbrake adjuster you'll override your brakes if you do it just from the handbrake....
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 19:23 Post subject: |
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OH - cool photos by the way - nice looking truck
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markymoan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 19:23 Post subject: |
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Roughly where in North Wales ?
I get around a lot
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 19:36 Post subject: |
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i broke a 1988 (e reg) swb 2.8 a couple of years ago and that had a clutch cable, so is ther a change over year or did different models have different set ups  |
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markymoan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 19:42 Post subject: |
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Ah, from milner 
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Clutch Cable
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Greenlaner
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 19:56 Post subject: |
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Cheers guys, yes it has a clutch cable, its an e reg 1988 I think. It has a 2.8TD in it now but I think it was originally a 2.3TD
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 20:07 Post subject: |
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Moved to correct section
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 20:07 Post subject: |
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 No rust problems with the car? chassis that is 
It does Looks smart by the way .
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There is the usual bits of slight rust underneath in places but it is in very good nick for its age. I do a lot of greenlaning with it in Wales (and Derbyshire now and again). I give it a steam clean now and again, seems to keep the rust at bay and going through the rivers / fords in Wales washes the underneath 
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 22:21 Post subject: |
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Its that damn salt they throw everywhere 
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There is the usual bits of slight rust underneath in places but it is in very good nick for its age. I do a lot of greenlaning with it in Wales (and Derbyshire now and again). I give it a steam clean now and again, seems to keep the rust at bay and going through the rivers / fords in Wales washes the underneath
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next time you're up in Derbyshire you'll have to give a shout, there's always a few of us up for a play in the area
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