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jonkem ******
Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 883 Location: Bedfordshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 22:39 Post subject: |
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The main difference externally is the position of the gear sticks. 3.1s have a remote linkage set-up on top of the box. You can mix and match Trooper engines onto whichever 'box you've got in, but not the other way round without cutting and welding the tunnel. _________________ 1994 KZJ70 Cruiser (currently filling the garage and causing some head scratching)
1988 MKI 3.1td Hybrid Van (Ex Bobtail)
1991 SWB Fronty 2.8td Hybrid
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dxmedia *******
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 4677 Location: Hope Valley
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 22:40 Post subject: |
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Right, so bell housings and input are all the same, it's the position of the box in the car which changes. _________________ For great insurance deals on 4x4s, imports and more, contact Adrian Flux :
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:::Matski::: Lifetime member
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 5181 Location: York
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 23:53 Post subject: |
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And the 3.1 box has a flange for the prop. The 2.8 is a push in fitting for the prop. _________________ Front Aussie Locker - Rear LSD - Petrol Diffs
2" Lift - 1" Body lift - +2" shocks - 32" KL71s
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rangielover ****
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 276 Location: West wales
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:47 Post subject: |
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thats all you need to do to get round that if your fitting a 3.1 engine and box into a newer vehicle or vice versa is to swap the back end of the transfer box i.e the casing which allows the appropriate prop to fit.
Physically the gearboxes are identical in size
Ive a 2.8 and 3.1 side by side in the garage ill take a snap and if someone could post it it would help i guess |
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:::Matski::: Lifetime member
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 5181 Location: York
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:51 Post subject: |
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They are the same ratios as well. _________________ Front Aussie Locker - Rear LSD - Petrol Diffs
2" Lift - 1" Body lift - +2" shocks - 32" KL71s
2.5" free flow stainless system - TMIC - 20psi Boost
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yakatar *
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 45 Location: Pontypool, South Wales
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 19:05 Post subject: |
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Think I get the picture, basically was assuming I had to do the following
1. Lose the spacer between the engine and box
2. Do something with the gearbox xmember or mount as it is now 2" too far back
3. Fit Trooper front prop
4. Do something with rear prop
The rear prop should be no problem, had to have a Frontera prop shortened when I fitted the Trooper rear axle so might get away with std 2.8 Frontera rear prop.
Gonna fit a Trooper front axle anyway as I have an Aussie locker ready to fit |
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rangielover ****
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 276 Location: West wales
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 14:27 Post subject: |
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you just rotate the gearbox rubber mounting
extend your rear prop 2 inch. job done |
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:::Matski::: Lifetime member
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 5181 Location: York
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 14:34 Post subject: |
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Now thats a good tip _________________ Front Aussie Locker - Rear LSD - Petrol Diffs
2" Lift - 1" Body lift - +2" shocks - 32" KL71s
2.5" free flow stainless system - TMIC - 20psi Boost
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yakatar *
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 45 Location: Pontypool, South Wales
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 21:08 Post subject: |
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rangielover wrote: |
you just rotate the gearbox rubber mounting
extend your rear prop 2 inch. job done |
Coolio
Rear prop isn't a problem. fitting a Trooper rear axle meant I had to shorten the std Frontera prop, so all things being equal taking the spacer out should enable the use of a std Frontera prop
The gearbox mounting tip is a gem tho
If anyone needs any prop work doing, I use a place called BARPropshafts in Neath, highly recommended, they have probably done several hundred shortened props for me over the years, generally turn them round in 24hrs. |
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:::Matski::: Lifetime member
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 5181 Location: York
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 22:05 Post subject: |
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Put them in the Parts suppliers forum _________________ Front Aussie Locker - Rear LSD - Petrol Diffs
2" Lift - 1" Body lift - +2" shocks - 32" KL71s
2.5" free flow stainless system - TMIC - 20psi Boost
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yakatar *
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 45 Location: Pontypool, South Wales
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 22:21 Post subject: |
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:::Matski::: wrote: |
Put them in the Parts suppliers forum |
Done |
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Matt_D *
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Gloucester
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 22:00 Post subject: |
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Rangielover you have a PM |
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