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deantanya999 Newbie
Joined: 06 Oct 2008 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:46 Post subject: 30l duty wont start |
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hi there everybody i have just brought a 30l swb duty for my dad he is 78 and he loves it and he said he would love it more if it started. the trouble im having is it wont start or run. if you squirt easy start it runs unyil the easy start runs out. please help as its so frustrating |
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TimBanham Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 1258 Location: Newark, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:04 Post subject: |
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Could be a few things
Firstly the 3.0 will only work on 5w30 oil - if it cannot get to pressure it will not fire the injectors - try changing the oild
Next it maybe that the strainer has come loose/knackered - top up with two more litres - if she starts thats your problem (remember to take out the extra 2 litres!)
Oil pressure sensor could be knackered - not easy to check without dealer facillities _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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Topvaux Lifetime member
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 934 Location: Dereham, Norfolk
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:01 Post subject: |
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Dean
WHATEVER you do........ THROW AWAY that Easy Start! You can be sure to gain a whole load of problems you never had before even after the occasional use of that stuff!
Not being funny, but amongst the delights that that can give you are: broken starter ring gear, broken starter bendix, wrecked injectors, wrecked glow plugs, blown headgasket, broken piston rings......... I think you get the drift?
Go back to Tim's suggestions and start there!
Do come back if those things don't get you anywhere. By the way, do you have any more history? Did you buy a non-runner? Were there any sympoms leading up to it not starting, and so on......? |
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deantanya999 Newbie
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 17:40 Post subject: |
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i got it as a non runner was told its not the timing belt but the previous owners did not know what it was i had a quick look and there is a long hollowed out bolt going into the engine which the fuel line joins onto so brought new bolt thinking this could be a nice cheap fix but how wrong i have been so far. |
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deantanya999 Newbie
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 17:42 Post subject: |
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forgot to mention the past owners said it was driving along and just stopped and has not fired up since |
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 17:59 Post subject: |
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I'm not an expert on the 3.0 but I'll echo a few pointers
Oil strainer in the sump (as said add 2L of 5/30 to check)
Oil pressure sensor, you can join 2 wires together to fool the ecu (not sure which but someone will)
Brake light fuse (the same fuse powers the ECU
Crank sensor or cam sensor, needs a tech2 diagnostic.
Then again it could be a fuel problem, the pipes on top of the fuel tank are prone to rotting. _________________ |
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richard wilkinson *******
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 2114 Location: staffordshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 18:48 Post subject: |
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might be sddicted to easy start its like herion to a car _________________ isuzu 3.0 about to be a 3.1 it is now
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richard wilkinson *******
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 2114 Location: staffordshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 18:49 Post subject: |
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richard wilkinson wrote: |
might be sddicted to easy start its like herion to a car |
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more likly fuel starvation _________________ isuzu 3.0 about to be a 3.1 it is now
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rallymarshall *******
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 1728 Location: somewere thereabouts
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 20:45 Post subject: |
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try changing the fuel filter, mite be worth a look at _________________ atb kevin
65 vauxhall mokka 1.6cdti 4x4 se
66 vauxhall corsa vxr |
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Chris B Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 3537 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 22:57 Post subject: |
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markymoan wrote: |
I'm not an expert on the 3.0 but I'll echo a few pointers
Oil strainer in the sump (as said add 2L of 5/30 to check)
Oil pressure sensor, you can join 2 wires together to fool the ecu (not sure which but someone will)
Brake light fuse (the same fuse powers the ECU
Crank sensor or cam sensor, needs a tech2 diagnostic.
Then again it could be a fuel problem, the pipes on top of the fuel tank are prone to rotting. |
Marky is spot on with the above - try all these first. Plus if its the cambelt it could be slightly out of alignment... unlike older diesels the 3.0 will not fire unless it gets the correct readouts from the oil rail pressure sensor, crank position sensor and camshaft position sensor. If one of the three are missing it will not fire the injectors. Easy start will not help in this case... best bet if you are lost with the above is find a dealer with TECH2 as they can diagnose very quickly what is wrong. Also... not sure where you are located... but if you are anywhere close to Oxford(ish) get it recovered to Cotswold Subaru & Isuzu.. they are 3.0 guru's! _________________ Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max LE | 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT LTM No.60
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Chris B Lifetime member
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 22:58 Post subject: |
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Any chance of a guide as to your location?? It may help guys on here help you _________________ Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max LE | 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT LTM No.60
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 22:58 Post subject: |
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some good info above, so what you can check is the strainer by making sure the oil level is on max then add a further 2 litres of 5/30 oil if it starts the strainer has broken and fell in to the sump so a new one will be needed, if it still wont run then remove the white wire from the big plug next to the dipstick tube. this will bypass the sensor and if it starts then a new rail pressure sensor is needed. |
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deantanya999 Newbie
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 14:16 Post subject: |
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hi found a hollowed out bolt which screws into the side of the engine which a fuel line goes to was broken so have just replaced and am now about to take it to be repaired |
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greasemonkey Lifetime member
Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 1024 Location: bury st edmunds, suffolk
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 19:13 Post subject: |
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Hi the hollow bolts are called 'banjo' bolts
cheers
Steve _________________ Isuzu Vehicross 3.2 V6 The Silver Bullet
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 19:18 Post subject: |
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the one they mean isn't a banjo bolt it's about 3-4 inches long and is basically a tube with a thread at each end |
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