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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checked for washer last night and it has a very very thin alloy one. I have read manual about bleeding so all I have to do is tighten bolt as the pump is pushed down or released? if I find a pipe on tank letting air in whats best method of doing pipes?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you fitted some clear pipe between inlet pipe on flter and the pipe from tank to check for bubbles, only need 10" of pipe & take about 10 mins to do.

If it is the tank then you will either need a new one, take to a specialist for repair or you can bodge it (what we did) by wrapping some plastic metal or similar around the hole
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

The clear pipe test I will try on Sat/Sun. I will let you know how I get on.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:08    Post subject: Problem Sorted Reply with quote

Changed fuel filter. Fuel inside old filter very dark. new filter fitted and bled. started and now runs and starts fine. Not sure why fuel in filter so dark, maybe a bad batch! any idea's. Please tell me it cant be oil in the fuel?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it can if the seals on the sleeves have gone
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 16:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trucks only done 67K and had good service history?  How is oil getting to filter? Which sleeves do you mean, valve/injector? Does this mean the fuel tank has oil in it or is it just back feeding? Only had truck 4 months so now extremly unhappy.  Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 16:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh by the way didnt start straight away again this morning as before, and thanks for replying.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 22:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

the injectors sit in sleeves in the head and the fuel line runs down the centre of the head, where it passes from head to sleeve there is an o ring which tends to perish it normally lets the diesel into the oil but it can go the other way. get it to a dealer and see if it had the recall for the sleeves
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 14:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for info. I have looked at injector assembly drawing and understand what you mean. Probably the top 'o'ring perished and not bottom. Have started to ring around to try and find if work has been done but so far not too much help comming. Thanks again for help Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 18:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got info from IM. Spoke to extremly helpfull guy.Injectors changed March 07 at 55k but there was nothing said about 'O' rings. He seems to think maybe they were not done, surely injectors come in a set with all seals etc. I have spoken to Isuzu garage in Colchester and they are going to have a look and let me know if its injectors, if so I think it may get done free. Just wandering if other people have had black diesel in filter as all threads I have read the diesel seems to go into sump! Is there any other possibilty, say oil getting in through high pressure pump? wife is worried that it's something else and I could end up paying for a strip down to find injectors ok! Just trying to cover all options.  Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 18:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

you get all the seals for the injectors but none for the sleeves as unless you take them out you don't disturb them when doing injectors
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 21:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

My trooper was exactly the same - fitted a new pressure sensor and is perfect now! (Had all recalls done too!)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, do you mean you had black diesel in filter but fitted new oil sensor? Does the picture of the injector in manual show it fitted in a sleeve? I can see an upper and lower 'O'ring above and below fuel inlet, are these on the sleeve? and does the injector only have 1off 'O' ring? Sorry for all the questions but I have no spare money to pay for repairs so if it is something I can do I will have to.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 13:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry meant i had new pressure sensor and solved all my problems. i thought it was fuel too.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 14:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone had black fuel in fuel filter? Question  Question
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