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vpd091148 *
Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Posts: 33 Location: wirral
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 17:00 Post subject: 12000 mile service |
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Isuzu fitted a complete new engine to my trooper 9000 miles ago so I am keen to have the dealer service it at least for the first few thousand miles! as the mot is due shortly I thought I'd kill to birds etc and have a service and MOT together.
ThreeWays Isuzu at Abergele have quoted £240 for the service and £53 for the MOT - the MOT is 17% higher and the service is 60% higher than I have just paid my local Honda Dealer to service and MOT my 2006 civic 2.2 i-ctdi.
Can anyone say if the figures from ThreeWays are typical of Isuzu servcing costs or can I better them by shopping around?. Looking at the maintenace and lubrication schedule they don't seem to do anything at 12k miles I couldn't do myself so its a lot for the dealer stamp!! |
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Mork_77 Lifetime member
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 797 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 19:47 Post subject: |
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I paid just under £200 for my last service which was the small/intermediate service. |
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vpd091148 *
Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Posts: 33 Location: wirral
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 20:32 Post subject: |
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Hi Mork_77
Was your service carried out by an Isuzu dealer?
I hope to speak with ThreeWays tomorrow and get a breakdown of what they are including for the £240?? From an old trooper service schedule they gave me previously the 12 k service is basicly an engine oil change and inspection so can't understand why it would cost £240. |
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Mork_77 Lifetime member
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 797 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 21:28 Post subject: |
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Yes it was a main Isuzu dealer, if I remember correctly it was just an oil change etc and so the same as the one your due. |
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kincraig1 ***
Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 125 Location: Dunoon, argyll, scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 20:31 Post subject: |
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£200 for a service, just an oil change? for that i would expect the axle oils changing, brakes servicing, all doors lubricating, and a full valet. how can they possibly justify that expense, oil filters what £5 each, even at £10 thats a total of £20, fuel filter is £20 ish oil cannot be more than £30 so thats makes £70+ labour (an hour max). so under £100 all in, thats with mark up on the parts, dont cost them anywhere near that.
wonder why most of us go to our local garages and not main dealer.
what a business to be in, most garages put it on a ramp un-does the drain plug and leaves it to drain itself, then goes and does another job, 10 mins to change filters, refill with oil and your away. i hate kwik fit but they do an oil and filter change for £25 but prob wont stock the correct oil for a trooper, oh and you'll get given a report telling you need new suspension, exhaust, battery and tyres but you can just ignor that bit i do with my other car |
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rallymarshall *******
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 1728 Location: somewere thereabouts
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 22:13 Post subject: |
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main oil filter (isuzu £23)
bypass oil filter (isuzu £9ish)
5-30 oil aint cheap either
£200 for a service is a rip off though _________________ atb kevin
65 vauxhall mokka 1.6cdti 4x4 se
66 vauxhall corsa vxr |
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kincraig1 ***
Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 125 Location: Dunoon, argyll, scotland
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 22:25 Post subject: |
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kincraig1 wrote: |
£200 for a service, just an oil change? for that i would expect the axle oils changing, brakes servicing, all doors lubricating, and a full valet. how can they possibly justify that expense, oil filters what £5 each, even at £10 thats a total of £20, fuel filter is £20 ish oil cannot be more than £30 so thats makes £70+ labour (an hour max). so under £100 all in, thats with mark up on the parts, dont cost them anywhere near that.
wonder why most of us go to our local garages and not main dealer.
what a business to be in, most garages put it on a ramp un-does the drain plug and leaves it to drain itself, then goes and does another job, 10 mins to change filters, refill with oil and your away. i hate kwik fit but they do an oil and filter change for £25 but prob wont stock the correct oil for a trooper, oh and you'll get given a report telling you need new suspension, exhaust, battery and tyres but you can just ignor that bit i do with my other car |
see thats why local garages have mechanics and dealerships have technicians!! a trained monkey can change oil but a real tech is worth his weight in gold.
well at least i am and thats a lot of gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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kincraig1 ***
Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 125 Location: Dunoon, argyll, scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 22:36 Post subject: |
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eithan h wrote: |
kincraig1 wrote: |
£200 for a service, just an oil change? for that i would expect the axle oils changing, brakes servicing, all doors lubricating, and a full valet. how can they possibly justify that expense, oil filters what £5 each, even at £10 thats a total of £20, fuel filter is £20 ish oil cannot be more than £30 so thats makes £70+ labour (an hour max). so under £100 all in, thats with mark up on the parts, dont cost them anywhere near that.
wonder why most of us go to our local garages and not main dealer.
what a business to be in, most garages put it on a ramp un-does the drain plug and leaves it to drain itself, then goes and does another job, 10 mins to change filters, refill with oil and your away. i hate kwik fit but they do an oil and filter change for £25 but prob wont stock the correct oil for a trooper, oh and you'll get given a report telling you need new suspension, exhaust, battery and tyres but you can just ignor that bit i do with my other car |
see thats why local garages have mechanics and dealerships have technicians!! a trained monkey can change oil but a real tech is worth his weight in gold.
well at least i am and thats a lot of gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
from your help with my problems i would have to agree with that!! NO ONE KNOWS ISUZU LIKE YOU
but in all honesty are you paid a triple the pay or a "trained monkey" to justlfy the extra expense, i certainly hope so, and can you honestly say every technician in your place is as knowledgeable or experianced as you, or even every dealership.
Having said that they are called technicians at landrover as well but from my experiance they are just bolt on mechanics, easier for them to replace than repair, more money in it too i bet. my mates freelander had blown head gasket, he ended up alot lighter after he was told he needed complete new TD4 engine. |
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 22:41 Post subject: |
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i wish i get £10ph and overtime is at 1.5 x hourly rate |
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kincraig1 ***
Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 125 Location: Dunoon, argyll, scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 22:51 Post subject: |
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eithan h wrote: |
i wish i get £10ph and overtime is at 1.5 x hourly rate |
in all honestly i would take my motor to you in a flash cos i wouldn't be paying per hour for a garage to work out what the problem is in a trial and error method, cos of your experiance of these motors you would isntantly nail it down to a couple of things in mins, so this would end up saving me money in the long run, how ever as i said not every dealership or technicion is as good, reading the horror storys on here people have paid over 1k on repairs for motors still not 100%, cos our motors arnt new anymore and we have older ones because we cannot afford new myelf for 1 cannot afford over 1k for a bill, it would break my bank and cause spontaneous divorce procedings.
out of interest what is your dealerships hourly rate then? |
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 22:56 Post subject: |
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well we have 3, for cars new to 4 yrs old it's £75ph then from 5 to 8 yrs old it's £65ph then for cars over 8 yrs old it's £55 ph |
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richard wilkinson *******
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 2114 Location: staffordshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 23:10 Post subject: |
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eithan h wrote: |
well we have 3, for cars new to 4 yrs old it's £75ph then from 5 to 8 yrs old it's £65ph then for cars over 8 yrs old it's £55 ph |
so its cheaper to get a old knacker serviced then ill book mrs in tomorrow then _________________ isuzu 3.0 about to be a 3.1 it is now
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Mork_77 Lifetime member
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 797 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 0:24 Post subject: |
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kincraig1 wrote: |
£200 for a service, just an oil change? for that i would expect the axle oils changing, brakes servicing, all doors lubricating, and a full valet. how can they possibly justify that expense, oil filters what £5 each, even at £10 thats a total of £20, fuel filter is £20 ish oil cannot be more than £30 so thats makes £70+ labour (an hour max). so under £100 all in, thats with mark up on the parts, dont cost them anywhere near that.
wonder why most of us go to our local garages and not main dealer.
what a business to be in, most garages put it on a ramp un-does the drain plug and leaves it to drain itself, then goes and does another job, 10 mins to change filters, refill with oil and your away. i hate kwik fit but they do an oil and filter change for £25 but prob wont stock the correct oil for a trooper, oh and you'll get given a report telling you need new suspension, exhaust, battery and tyres but you can just ignor that bit i do with my other car |
Well they did service the brakes and lubricate the doors etc as well, I just figured among other things that was what the general inspection covered and that they don't do as many things as on the next service that costs about £400.
If you think Kwik Fits bad try owning a Ford I took my two year old Focus to get serviced and came out with a list of things the length of my arm that they said needed doing and none of it was true. Apparently all my wheels were pointing in different angles (£60 to fix), new tyre £120 (did need doing), the brakes were just about shot, the brand new wipers I had just fitted were falling apart and they tried to get me to pay to have the noisy boot fixed that I had been complaining about since I got it and is a known fault that's fixed under warranty.
I went down the road to Tyrespot to get 2 front tyres fitted for much less than Fords price and they checked the alignment for free and told me they were all spot on and the brakes were fine.
The first service was a joke as well, I told the girl on the desk I would wait and she said "oh well it will be a couple of hours" 35 minutes later I was paying and asked if they had actually done anything since the 2 hours was cut down to 35 minutes and she gave me a load of *beep* about my car being so well looked after.
Never again will I own a Ford. |
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kincraig1 ***
Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 125 Location: Dunoon, argyll, scotland
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 0:51 Post subject: |
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christ dont mention ford to me, my dad had a brand new escort years ago he took it in for a service then off he went to work, he drove 35 miles away sat at some traffic lights and was shocked to see his car going past, so he went back to the garage to see how his car was doing, they advised it was out on a test drive, so he said oh i'll wait then, he said you should have seen there faces drop, anyway over an hour passed and it turned up, suprisingly full of parts and sandwiches for all the staff, oh and hadn't even been touched. The funny thing is my dad always writes down the milage as he drops them off it had done over 100 miles, needless to say he got the full service for free and a full apology but bought his next car and moved the servicing to another main dealer.
also i had a sierra 2.0i gls which i bought at just under 50k, took it to main ford dealer when it due service and i asked if they could do cam belt, they adv no its a chain on these and last the lifetime of the engine, so believed them, then at 60k asked again, then 70k, then just under 80k it went with an almighty bang on the motorway, engine/ car write off cos it had gone doing 90mph on motorway. when had towed back and sent to engine reconditioners he adv me common fault on these, you could have changed it for about £200 for piece of mind. insite is a wonderfull thing. oh and yes it did last the lifetime of the engine but unfortunatly caused it to fail so what a stupid statement.
you know the best new cars i think at moment for piece of mind is a either a hyundai (dont laugh) with a 5 year unlimited milage warrenty or a kia (stop laughing) 7 year 100,000 mile warrenty |
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