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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 16:23 Post subject: Dual Mass Flywheel Failure. |
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Got troop back late friday pm (Huzzaah ) after DMF and clutch replacement.Took all replaced parts back with me.
Visually there are no signs of failure,when you get hold of the inner(clutch drive face)you can move it relative to the outer,but that's after failure.
What I did notice,before failure there was sideways movement in the gearstick( -6:0:+6 mm---about 1/2 inch in all),after the DMF was replaced it is now rock steady....Perhaps this is the indication that the DMF is starting to go,a bit of "slop" in it at idle causing movement in the sytem as it catches up with itself.
When (IF ) I get a chance this week,I'll try and get the thing apart and see exactly what the failure mechanism is.
So if anyones got some bright ideas ...We have a full donor set for examination/matching etc......
A big to LifeStyle Europe Tunbridge Wells,who carried out the work..See "Feedback/Isuzu Dealers"
Cheers all
One very happy Robbo...... _________________ Khotso........... |
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Gribble *******
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 18:29 Post subject: |
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Superglue and baler twine ? _________________ 2 New Troopers ! |
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rallymarshall *******
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 19:33 Post subject: |
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duct tape _________________ atb kevin
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 19:43 Post subject: |
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ThistleBond..... _________________ Khotso........... |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 19:54 Post subject: |
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Oy you pair take it seriously
_________________ Khotso........... |
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rallymarshall *******
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 20:36 Post subject: |
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i think gripfill would do the job good stuff
a bit worrying when you say you had a bit of movement in your stick, as mine does that now at tickover it moves just a tiny bit, i put it down to it being a diesel, wonder if you can weld a dual mass up
better start saving for a new 1 _________________ atb kevin
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Gribble *******
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 20:43 Post subject: |
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Oh ok , if it uses springs as a damper then the must have a reaction point on the the two halves ? If the springs are broken then the two halves must be spinning free so maybe just a new set of springs will do it ? If the mounting points have bent or worn a small welding job might do ,lets see some pics so we can see where to put the pk's _________________ 2 New Troopers ! |
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richard wilkinson *******
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 20:50 Post subject: |
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rallymarshall wrote: |
i think gripfill would do the job good stuff
a bit worrying when you say you had a bit of movement in your stick, as mine does that now at tickover it moves just a tiny bit, i put it down to it being a diesel, wonder if you can weld a dual mass up
better start saving for a new 1 |
stick like sh*t is stronger
and yes my gear stick shakes a bit _________________ isuzu 3.0 about to be a 3.1 it is now
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Hard1 Lifetime member
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 20:59 Post subject: |
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I think Eithan and/or Gribble has said that a shaking gearstick is one of the first symptoms. _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
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rallymarshall *******
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 21:06 Post subject: |
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mines been shaky pretty well since ive had it _________________ atb kevin
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richard wilkinson *******
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 21:10 Post subject: |
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rallymarshall wrote: |
mines been shaky pretty well since ive had it |
mine too not to much not a injecter shake hard 1 just a little wigle side to side
im trying not to think about it its just a derv thing _________________ isuzu 3.0 about to be a 3.1 it is now
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Hard1 Lifetime member
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 21:20 Post subject: |
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I stopped worrying about stuff like that years ago. I developed these huge ears and eyes which really hindered me so I stopped worrying and waited until something fell off before worrying. Funny thing is, since that time - nothing's ever fallen off or failed..
What do they say? If it ain't broke - fix it until it is! _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:40 Post subject: |
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Gribble wrote: |
Oh ok , if it uses springs as a damper then the must have a reaction point on the the two halves ? If the springs are broken then the two halves must be spinning free so maybe just a new set of springs will do it ? If the mounting points have bent or worn a small welding job might do ,lets see some pics so we can see where to put the pk's |
Will do as soon as I get it apart... _________________ Khotso........... |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:46 Post subject: |
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Hard1 wrote: |
I stopped worrying about stuff like that years ago. I developed these huge ears and eyes which really hindered me so I stopped worrying and waited until something fell off before worrying. Funny thing is, since that time - nothing's ever fallen off or failed..
What do they say? If it ain't broke - fix it until it is! |
Quite true....
As far as the gear shake goes that started about a day before falure,along with a strange bit of vibration,changes from the norm.
If you've always had a bit of wobble,then that's the norm so I wouldn't worry,its only if you get a change from what is normal for your truck.
So before (Dual) Mass hysteria starts creeping in....DONT PANIC.... _________________ Khotso........... |
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Mork_77 Lifetime member
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 14:03 Post subject: |
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After I had my new flywheel fitted the gear stick was very tight and didn't move at all, gear change was a little stiff as well, few months down the line and its all freed up a bit, i just put it down to everything being tightened up after it all being put back together. |
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