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Philp · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:44 Post subject:

We had a new shape diesel Cherokee and this was the same, pulled abysmally when cold, we use a couple of side streets to do a quick circuit to turn around and the first bit is very steep and it would be totally flat, no acceleration and wouod barely struggle up the hill. The main dealer told us this was normal until the engine was wamrm, but who can always sit and wait for a diesel to warm up fully in the winter? If you have a secure drive like I do now you could always considerjust letting it warm up locked or even fit an engine pre-heater on a timer like a webasto or kenlowe.
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96 or is it a 98 Isuzu Bighorn Lotus

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chippy · * Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 10 Location: CROYDON

Philp · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:06 Post subject:

My MK 1 started OK in minus 16C last winter after sitting out al night albeit with a touch more smoke than normal. I guess the first thing to check is whether your heaterplugs are all working correctly. As to the engine pre-heater you can get ones that actualy burn diesel to work so don't need an electrical hookup. I think Eberspacher is the big brand of fuel burners. This way you save a lot of wear in starting a cold engine and have a nice warm heater circuit, some kits also even allow you to switch the demister on by timer so the cabin is warm and the screen demisted when you get in.

http://www.coldchain.com/pksel.asp?CatID=20&PkID=104
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jon willy · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:08 Post subject:

Chippy ...... While my Trooper is the 3.1TD, having scanned this forum for some time I'm sure I recollect that your model has an issue with the oil grade, a heavier grade oil creates problems .. may account for having to wait for it to warm up.... just food for thought.

Jon.
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steveforster9 · *** Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 167 Location: Leicester

Chippy

My 3.0 isn't the best when cold. It runs a little rough for 2-3 minutes & then all is well. It already runs 5/30 fully synthetic. I had just put it down to the oil when cold not being as effictive at pressurising the injectors.

Not much help I'm afraid Confused

PS - Welcome to the forum 8)

Steve
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frank sucevic · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 18:48 Post subject:

had my 2.5 diesel turbo transit 4 years its even worse than your trooper lumpie as hell from cold but starts first flick of the key just will not rev for the first few minuets i have learned to live with it so when i got the trooper 15 months ago it did not seem odd to me i was preconditioned to the wait the transit being so reliable i thought this was normal for tuned turbo diesels the transit being ex police riot van i assumed it to be chipped. hope this is a better way of replying to your ? mate frank

NickP · **** Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 281 Location: South East

The safest thing to do would be to get friendly with your local Isuzu service manager and see if he'll get your trooper plugged in for a check on the relevant sensors and ask him if it's normal.

STEVE,it sounds like there may be a problem with yours too it's not normal for a 3.0 to run rough at all!! If anything it should be quite the opposite!

frank sucevic · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 19:26 Post subject:

hi ya nickp there are some people that say its not normal for a 3.0 ltr to run at all frank 1 off the members off the 3.0ltr appreciation society Laughing

chippy · * Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 10 Location: CROYDON

thanks for all your ideas, I am just putting up with it at the moment and letting it warm up on the drive...I will change the oil just in case and maybe get it put on a tech2 unless these dont use that and only Isuzu have the tool (wouldn't surprise me)
thanks again...oh yeah on the good side I wondered what these were like on diesel and filled up the tank then drove 70 miles and topped it up and just squeezed a tenner in...around 35 to the gallon sounds a bit to good to be true but I wont complain.
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NickP · **** Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 281 Location: South East

steveforster9 · *** Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 167 Location: Leicester

Mmm, thanks Nick - got me worried now Shocked

- its been like that since we bought it 3 years ago!!!

I know that its has has the campaign work done on the injectors etc. Could it be anything to do with injectors needing coding???

It is going in for its service in the next couple of weeks, I'll get them to check it out.

Cheers
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steveforster9 · *** Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 167 Location: Leicester

jon willy · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:46 Post subject:

steveforster9 · *** Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 167 Location: Leicester

Just wait 'til you see the pictures, Jon Laughing

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jon willy · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:56 Post subject: