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Hooty500 Lifetime member
Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Posts: 81 Location: Cannock Chase
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 18:09 Post subject: MOT Results.............. |
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Had the Trooper, 93 - 3.1 swb, serviced today.............FAIL.
Front chassis rotting both sides, both sills, wheel bearing & some form of flexi tube (I'd pretty much blacked out by then).
Anyway £470 total.
Oh god I think i'm gonna be sick again.............
The guy said it's mechanically sound but needed all the above doing. I've had it a year so this is my first MOT on it.
Truth be told I'm not absolutley distraught as the truck is 18yrs old so all told its prob not that bad & the work they'll do should see me through a few more yrs. The mechanic, who I've used for yrs, would say if there was anything else that was nearing the end of its life but as mentioned above he said its sound, well apart from the rotting corpse!! |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 19:22 Post subject: |
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Can't say I'm suprised to hear about rust issues! My trooper is a 1999 and its very rusty on the chassis already
I sold my 17 year old Frontera to my sister, it was totally rust free underneath in august when it sailed through another MOT, I really do mean NO rust, guess the Japs are still living up to their 'rust bucket' reputation whilst others have found out about rustproofing! _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 20:04 Post subject: |
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jacksdad1963 wrote: |
Can't say I'm suprised to hear about rust issues! My trooper is a 1999 and its very rusty on the chassis already
I sold my 17 year old Frontera to my sister, it was totally rust free underneath in august when it sailed through another MOT, I really do mean NO rust, guess the Japs are still living up to their 'rust bucket' reputation whilst others have found out about rustproofing! |
Thought that was Japanese.. .....My 93 (soon to be scrapped ) Bighorn has no penetrative rust at all on the chassis,and the 2000 Mk IV chassis is like new....Soooooo I guess they might have cracked it and you may have a sayonara job.. _________________ Khotso........... |
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DYLAN Moderator
Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 5115 Location: Chesterfield, Derbyshire
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 20:18 Post subject: |
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My 96 Bighorn chassis is also solid. _________________
2002 S-TYPE JAGUAR 3.0 SPORT |
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TrooperDan *******
Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Posts: 2337 Location: Near York, E Yorks
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 20:21 Post subject: |
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Underseal Underseal Underseal. It really works.
The 2000 reg I have has a mint chassis but a 2001 near me is *beep*. Guess which one doesn't have underseal ? _________________ www.independentisuzu.co.uk |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 20:49 Post subject: |
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Where are fronty chassis built?
I was told that they galvanised them after being built, hence why they don't rust, any truth in that? I'm going to paint my troop underneath then waxoil type oil in the box sections, don't want that going west as well as the engine !
Just passed the MOT last week so must be solid enough _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Hooty500 Lifetime member
Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Posts: 81 Location: Cannock Chase
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 20:51 Post subject: |
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When I bought it I could see the back had had some minor welding but could not see anything on the front, goes to show I don't know a deal.
Once I get it back & have stopped weeping I'll get some underseal on it. Hopefully with that & the work its having done it should see me through a few more years.
Is there a thread regarding underseal?
Is it a case of wire brushing everything & then sealing?
Regarding the rust, its a lottery.
I used to own a 92 Astra for 6yrs. Best car I ever had, went all over UK in it & never once let me down but other folk I know wouldn't touch Vauxhall.
As for the Japanese, I work for Toyota so my drive has only Jap motors on it, thankfully I get a new one every year so avoid the rust with that one. |
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richard wilkinson *******
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 2114 Location: staffordshire
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 21:51 Post subject: |
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jacksdad1963 wrote: |
Where are fronty chassis built?
I was told that they galvanised them after being built, hence why they don't rust, any truth in that? I'm going to paint my troop underneath then waxoil type oil in the box sections, don't want that going west as well as the engine !
Just passed the MOT last week so must be solid enough |
just the later models were galvernised oh 1999 mines solid if you want to talk rust maybe you fancy a chat about a landrover sure there not jap built _________________ isuzu 3.0 about to be a 3.1 it is now
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richard wilkinson *******
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 2114 Location: staffordshire
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 21:54 Post subject: |
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Hooty500 wrote: |
When I bought it I could see the back had had some minor welding but could not see anything on the front, goes to show I don't know a deal.
Once I get it back & have stopped weeping I'll get some underseal on it. Hopefully with that & the work its having done it should see me through a few more years.
Is there a thread regarding underseal?
Is it a case of wire brushing everything & then sealing?
Regarding the rust, its a lottery.
I used to own a 92 Astra for 6yrs. Best car I ever had, went all over UK in it & never once let me down but other folk I know wouldn't touch Vauxhall.
As for the Japanese, I work for Toyota so my drive has only Jap motors on it, thankfully I get a new one every year so avoid the rust with that one. |
mate thats not bad for its age atall _________________ isuzu 3.0 about to be a 3.1 it is now
vauxhall astra club 1.6 |
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Hooty500 Lifetime member
Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Posts: 81 Location: Cannock Chase
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 22:35 Post subject: |
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.[/quote]
mate thats not bad for its age atall[/quote]
Cheers for the words of sympathy Richard, even my mate who wrecked his Land Rover last month still found time to take the pi@@!!
He has to replace his chassis so hopefully my pain has made him feel a bit better |
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richard wilkinson *******
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 2114 Location: staffordshire
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 22:43 Post subject: |
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hooty is the pic in your sig that that little lane than runs oif the a34 through the chase to the cafe _________________ isuzu 3.0 about to be a 3.1 it is now
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Hooty500 Lifetime member
Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Posts: 81 Location: Cannock Chase
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 22:56 Post subject: |
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No mate, it was taken at Silverdale nr Stoke.
I know where ur on about though, passed it the other day & wondered what condition it's in.
Not been up there for many a year. |
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richard wilkinson *******
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 2114 Location: staffordshire
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 23:00 Post subject: |
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Hooty500 wrote: |
No mate, it was taken at Silverdale nr Stoke.
I know where ur on about though, passed it the other day & wondered what condition it's in.
Not been up there for many a year. |
still drivable in a ford mondeo went down yesterday _________________ isuzu 3.0 about to be a 3.1 it is now
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Grandad *******
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 1902 Location: NORFOLK
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 23:19 Post subject: |
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I think you will find that frontera's are only Isuzu MU'S swb and Wizard's lwb with a few different engines and trims and luton couldnt even build them properly untill the japanese sent a team over to show them how |
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Hooty500 Lifetime member
Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Posts: 81 Location: Cannock Chase
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:01 Post subject: |
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Morning,
Collected the truck last night & not totally convinced I've got value for money.
Could someone pls confirm the following
- if they have repaired (welded) inner sills I should be able to see the work done?
- same as above but for front chassis (box section added)
I can see small parts of welds on both but regarding the sills it very limited & not on both sides as they described.
I'll post some pics later but at work now.
I'd just like some advice before I go back & ask for an explanation.
Cheers fellas
Nick. |
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