QuoteSeek - free to use insurance comparison site

Isuzu Trooper Owners Club UK™
Isuzu Trooper, Rodeo, Bighorn, Mu & VehiCROSS Owners Club
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   Watched TopicsWatched Topics   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your personal messagesLog in to check your personal messages   Log inLog in 
CalendarCalendar  ITOCUK Club ShopClub Shop  ITOCUK Classified Ads serviceClassified Ads
ITOCUK HomeITOCUK Home   dynamic online chat serviceChatrooms  Yellow Diamond ClubsYellow Diamond Clubs

Brakes, then no brakes, then BANG!

Goto page Previous  1, 2
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Isuzu Trooper Owners Club UK™ Forum Index -> Suspension / chassis / steering / brakes / wheels / tyres
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
bigbaldbloke
***


Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 216
Location: Nawf Lundon

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 19:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to bore, but a further update & 3 questions. The Beast is back home now & I'm £105 worse off.

I asked the garage manager about testing the brake master cylinder & he said that you should keep pushing the pedal until it goes dead, then, with foot still on, start the engine & the pedal should go down. I tried it & it worked fine. Is this as effective as the above method?

Also, he said that the pads were 75% worn. Is that normal for 7 months of mostly driving around town in an auto?

Lastly, he reckons that the grating sound & feel that I got just before impact was the ABS kicking in. Bullsh*t or truth?


bbb
_________________
1995 Vauxhall Monterey
3.2 V6 Auto
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
Google
Sponsor





PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 19:21    Post subject: Google Ads keep this community free to join!


Back to top
Philp
*******


Joined: 12 Oct 2004
Posts: 3869
Location: Shropshire

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brake wear is very subjective a lot depends on your driving style, the pad compound, mileage and type of driving (town vs motorway), autos tend to get through brakes quicker than a manual as you get less engine braking with the self-shifter. Also a Trooper is a big heavy motor and so will get through brakes quicker than a car if driven in a "spirited" manner! Town driving is heavier on brakes than motorway/A road driving as you tend to be on and off the brakes much more. I'd say thats probably fairly realistic tbh.

The first car I drove with ABS scared the *beep* out of me the first time it cut in, some systems can feel very harsh and you do get a fair amount of feedback through the pedal and some noise. The roads recently have been very greasy, apparently this is due to a semi-synthetic grit/salt mix some councils now use, a side effect of this is that it brings some oil out of the road surface making them very greasy.
_________________
Phil

96 or is it a 98 Isuzu Bighorn Lotus
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
bigbaldbloke
***


Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 216
Location: Nawf Lundon

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philp wrote:
Brake wear is very subjective a lot depends on your driving style, the pad compound, mileage and type of driving (town vs motorway), autos tend to get through brakes quicker than a manual as you get less engine braking with the self-shifter. Also a Trooper is a big heavy motor and so will get through brakes quicker than a car if driven in a "spirited" manner! Town driving is heavier on brakes than motorway/A road driving as you tend to be on and off the brakes much more. I'd say thats probably fairly realistic tbh.

The first car I drove with ABS scared the *beep* out of me the first time it cut in, some systems can feel very harsh and you do get a fair amount of feedback through the pedal and some noise. The roads recently have been very greasy, apparently this is due to a semi-synthetic grit/salt mix some councils now use, a side effect of this is that it brings some oil out of the road surface making them very greasy.


Phil, you're a gentleman. Any opinion on the last question, i.e. the best way to test the brake master cylinder? The hose clipping method or the easier one?
_________________
1995 Vauxhall Monterey
3.2 V6 Auto
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
Philp
*******


Joined: 12 Oct 2004
Posts: 3869
Location: Shropshire

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH I thought that the test described tested the brake servo performance not the master cylinder, master cylinders are very difficult to test, some have a dust seal on the end around the pushrod you can look under and see if theres any fluid getting past the seals but even this needs a certain amount of dismantling. Master cylinder faults tend to give you a mushy pedal that may or may not respond to pumping. Servo faults tend to give a hard pedal. There are other causes of brake problems of course, it could be a sticking caliper, (quite poassible if your tooiper has the same type of single pot calipers as the MK 1 as they are prone to corrosion) it could be a flexi-hose collapsing or ballooning or even a kinked hard brake line. Bias valves can stick as can load compensators if they are fitted to later troopers. (This is a device that adds more braking effort to the back end when loaded involving a lever on the rear axle that moves a valve) Mine occasionally sticks after being loaded which makes the back end lock up more readily, a good squirt of oil sorts it out generally)
_________________
Phil

96 or is it a 98 Isuzu Bighorn Lotus
Back to top
View user's profile Send personal message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Isuzu Trooper Owners Club UK™ Forum Index -> Suspension / chassis / steering / brakes / wheels / tyres All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


All contents © Hobson's Choice IT Solutions Ltd 1997 on
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group