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Water pump change 3.1td UBS69

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 20:15    Post subject: Water pump change 3.1td UBS69 Reply with quote

Hi all,



Trying to attempt this on an Bighorn Auto with A/C.

Noticed the bottom cover holding the bottom water pump bolts is behind the bottom belt pulley.

Reading previous posts it seems that the pulley should come off by undoing the four bolts leaving the centre bolt in place and a few clouts. Looking at the centre bolt head it doesn't look like it would "Pull through the pulley" if that makes sense, so I assume the bolt needs to be removed. Being on auto it means the engine isn't locked and the pulley would turn if I tried to get the bolt out.

Wonder if anyone had any tips or tricks to get the bottom pulley off?

Cheers
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 23:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just undo the four little bolts (12mm socket). Then get your longest jimmy bar and stuff the end in the outer groove levering against the head of the old of water pump, you can then whack the pulley with a hammer and it will pop off. Ignore the centre bolt.

Better instructions here, just ignore references to timing belt change, though I would be tempted to do that as well.

http://www.itocuk.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27458
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 13:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply.

Unfortunately on mine pulley it is a different arrangement.

Having had a closer look the Pulley is bolted on with big thick washer.

As its an Auto had to lock the flywheel to get the bolt out.
Then is was a sod to get the pulley out, the four bolts didn't actually screw into anything, so I used longer bolts to "push the pulley off" and it was tight to get off to the very end!

Not sure if having A/C has anything to with it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 13:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you mate? Sounds as if you might have a gear driven engine, or at least something very strange to the rest of us.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 15:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the UK mate its a Jap import.

I have taken some photos I will uplaod them later
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 15:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry also forgot to say it is belt driven, timing belt is under the water pump.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 15:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think gear driven exists does it? Just belt and some chain.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 19:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

No no no Dylan ... before Grandad has a tantrum Very Happy ... there never ever was a chain driven 4JB1 or 4JG2. They were on the whole belt driven in vehicles, with some gear driven ones. Most gear driven one's ended up in dusty countries like Indonesia, and others used with pumps or marine purposes.

I think I rescued that one lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 19:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

As promised the pictures:





Below is the bolt with the big washer on


Bolt and washer inside pulley


Just to prove it is belt driven
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah ... big ass washer. How bizzare, though I do recollect someone else having the same issue. One to remember for future reference.

Cheers for the pictures buddy. Will help others in the future.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

zarkrax wrote:
As promised the pictures:





Below is the bolt with the big washer on


Bolt and washer inside pulley


Just to prove it is belt driven


zarkrax wrote:
Thanks for the reply.

Unfortunately on mine pulley it is a different arrangement.

Having had a closer look the Pulley is bolted on with big thick washer.

As its an Auto had to lock the flywheel to get the bolt out.
Then is was a sod to get the pulley out, the four bolts didn't actually screw into anything, so I used longer bolts to "push the pulley off" and it was tight to get off to the very end!

Not sure if having A/C has anything to with it.


My poly crankshaft is equal to this!

I did not understand perfectly : how do to unscrew ! (Some difficulty in translating)

I have to take the four small screws and large, that is in the middle ?

I am with a doubt: At a special procedure to loosen the four screws of poly crankshaft ?

And to remove the poly crankshaft, you must exit the large bolt, screw the middle ?

There is some technical procedure, I can facilitate their removal ?

It takes some special tools to hold and remove the crankshaft poly ?

Thank you .
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

I apologize for my previous post!

As my 4x4 also has ac; When looking at the photo, I thought it was the crankshaft poly!

this:





I seen the middle bolt, removed ;  I went into panic !
(I thought it was the crankshaft pulley bolt)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 20:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quick question. ....is the thread standard ie turn left to undo or is this a left hand thread?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 21:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Standard right hand thread.....best way is to find a perfect fitting socket and using a long bar put the bar against the chassis rail and flick the starter..don't let the engine start just flick the key and it'll come loose a treat Wink  just changed my Cambelt and this is the way I removed the pulley.

Re-tighten to 150 lbs FT

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