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I put this site on before, well tried to but got it wrong. Take a look at www.offroadroutes.net for greenlaning in your area. Hope that works.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:42 Post subject: |
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nothing in jockland  a well just have to brave the kishorn applecross route again 
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:49 Post subject: |
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| mrwookie wrote: |
| nothing in jockland |
There are several in "jockland" (and thousands in England & Wales) on the Wayfinder site at www.wayfinderproject.co.uk.
Anyone can have access to Wayfinder - but it is free if you are a member of GLASS or TRF - and low cost if you are a member of any organisation that is affiliated to GLASS. Details are on the FAQ pages (click on the Help/FAQ button at www.wayfinderproject.co.uk).
The routes on www.offroadroutes.net (which is a commercial site run by a GLASS member) are well researched and documented - but there aren't many (any?) in the north.
You should also note that the law in England and Wales has changed recently - and more than half of the greenlanes that have been regularly used in the past are no longer lawful to drive. For the latest news about the NERC Act, see the GLASS site at www.glass-uk.org
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 20:14 Post subject: |
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Cheers for that Andrew, was being a bit tounge in cheek but it does sometimes seem the wall is all ther is to the uk
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 20:30 Post subject: |
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| mrwookie wrote: |
| Cheers for that Andrew, was being a bit tounge in cheek but it does sometimes seem the wall is all ther is to the uk |
The law in Scotland is different. There is no public register of rights of way; they are not shown on Ordnance Survey maps and most folks think that there are no VRoW, with the possible exception of the road over the Corrieyairack Pass. It isn't true but there aren't many known - about 100 ish on Wayfinder. Scotland is almost a rights of way wasteland for motor vehicles compared with England & Wales, despite the NERC Act.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 20:33 Post subject: |
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"There are several in "jockland" (and thousands in England & Wales) on the Wayfinder site at www.wayfinderproject.co.uk. "
several is very little in a country the size of Scotland
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 20:34 Post subject: |
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"There are several in "jockland" (and thousands in England & Wales) on the Wayfinder site at www.wayfinderproject.co.uk. "
several is very little in a country the size of Scotland
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 20:50 Post subject: |
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| Lynn Johnson wrote: |
| several is very little in a country the size of Scotland |
One of the big problems is that there is no public record of rights of way - so no one knows how many there are or where they are. As I said above, Scotways have a RoW database called CRoW - but most of Scotways membership are walkers, so they have little or no interest in VRoW.
Greenlaning doesn't really exist as a recreational activity in Scotland. Clubs such as the Scottish OffRoad Club ( http://www.sorc.org.uk ) organise most/all their activity on private land with the permission of landowners.
Depressing, isn't it?
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actually there are 4 registered right of ways in scotland
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| actually there are 4 registered right of ways in scotland |
Can you explain how and where these 4 are "registered"; where you get the number 4 from and which routes they are?
The National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act 1949 that required Highway Authorities to create and maintain Definitive Maps in England and Wales, did not apply to Scotland at all - so, as I say above, there is no public register of rights of way for Scotland. The nearest thing to a surrogate for Definitive Maps in Scotland is the Scotways CRoW (Catalogue of Rights of Way) but this has no standing in law. The Scotways CRoW records rights of way as having a status, which can be:
"Claimed" - in the opinion of Scotways, sufficient evidence exists for there to be reasonable certainty that the route is a public right of way
"Asserted" - As "Claimed" plus agreement from the landowner that the route is a public right of way and/or that the route has been or can be asserted by the Highway Authority as a public right of way.
"Vindicated" - a route declared to be a right of way by the courts
On CRoW, there are approx 105 vehicular rights of way that have the status "Claimed", 30 have the status "Asserted" and 8 have the status "Vindicated". As an aside, the road over the Corrieyairack Pass is recorded on CRoW as being a public right of way of "unknown" user type - i.e. not vehicular nor bridleway nor footpath.
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they were given to me when i tried to dom bachelor of science in rural management they pre date the union and are now out of date as the right to roam now preceed it
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| they were given to me when i tried to dom bachelor of science in rural management |
You might find the Scotways site of interest. See: http://www.scotways.com/
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