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dwalsh *
Joined: 04 Dec 2012 Posts: 16 Location: Spalding
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 23:12 Post subject: 3.0 DOHC Glow plugs location |
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Hi
I recently changed my ageing Monterey which has run faultlessly for 8 years for an ageing 2003 trooper citation it runs really well but the glow plugs dont appear to be doing anything when the ignition is turned on, ie when I turn the ignition on the Monterey I hear a click and the interior light dimmed untlil the glow plug relay had powered the plugs and turned off on the trooper I see the glow plug symbol on the dashboard light up but ther is no click or dimming of the interior light and its a *beep* to start I want to check my glow plugs I have removed the rocker cover but am unable to find the glow plugs (sad I know but iam a complete novice on the 3.0 engine) could one of you nice people please let me know where the buggers are hiding or even better post an image Thank you |
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TrooperSimon Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Jun 2012 Posts: 699 Location: Costa Del Doncaster
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 23:56 Post subject: |
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Take off the intercooler and throttle body
take off the plastic cover
pull out the sound deadening sponge stuff down the right handside and there the little beepers are
BUT
just because the lights don't go dim they might still be working
how long does it take to fire up ????
First check the basics
On the drivers side of bulkhead above the servo
You shoud see a grey plug this is glow plug cable unplug it make sure you have power with a simple test light
If not check the big fuse in engine fuse box
Also between the fusebox and bulkhead is a small square box containing two relays
open this and swap them over
now if you think one or more of your plugs are down
then its worth doing a proper test as it is not worth risking snapping a good one
they snap off very easy and its a major job to get them out
a 2003 citation is as new as they get
cheers
simon |
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dwalsh *
Joined: 04 Dec 2012 Posts: 16 Location: Spalding
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 0:31 Post subject: |
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Thank you simon I will follow your directions but if they fail could you let me know where the glow plugs are actually located! I've removed the rocker cover i can see the injectors but can not see the glowplugs anywhere |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 0:44 Post subject: |
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Er, you can't really miss them
they sit at the bottom of each 'groove' in the inlet manifold, BUT as stated earlier, they are always stuck and trying to undo them snaps them!
Anyway, its unlikely to be all 4 gone, have you replaced the blue relay?
_________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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dwalsh *
Joined: 04 Dec 2012 Posts: 16 Location: Spalding
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:24 Post subject: |
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Thanks jacksdad thats the last place where I would have looked what an awkward place to situate them thanks again |
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TrooperSimon Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Jun 2012 Posts: 699 Location: Costa Del Doncaster
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:48 Post subject: |
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Now then Jacksdad some people are not as mechanical as others
Remember i not a mechanic..........
However i better beeping service your trooper for you before the next itoc bash
Don't want to see it on a low loader again do we
Dwalsh
You don't have to take the alloy rocker cover off or undo the high pressure oil pipe
once you have removed the plastics and the sponge look down the right side of the rocker cover and you will see them
all linked with a thin metal bar
cheers
simon |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:02 Post subject: |
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I just used a pic from my engine rebuild as it shows the glowplugs, hope it didn't mislead anyone....please don't strip the top end to get to them!
Surely if someone is planning to remove glowplugs they have some mechanical skills?
yes, my troop broke down at the bash, highly amusing for you lot, but the experts there couldn't find a fault either
After much searching I found the fault, a pinhole sized hole in the fuel return pipe, meaning a new tank, luckily I'd already bought one as it was going cheap, what a pain in the bum though!
trooper simone, my next service is due around March, will you collect and leave me a courtesy troop as well please? _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:12 Post subject: |
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jacksdad1963 wrote: |
I just used a pic from my engine rebuild as it shows the glowplugs, hope it didn't mislead anyone....please don't strip the top end to get to them!
Surely if someone is planning to remove glowplugs they have some mechanical skills?
yes, my troop broke down at the bash, highly amusing for you lot, but the experts there couldn't find a fault either
After much searching I found the fault, a pinhole sized hole in the fuel return pipe, meaning a new tank, luckily I'd already bought one as it was going cheap, what a pain in the bum though!
trooper simone, my next service is due around March, will you collect and leave me a courtesy troop as well please? |
a)Believe I told you that the injectors were enabling therefore you had a fuel issue
b)Nobody found it amusing
c)Return pipe ? _________________ Khotso........... |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 21:53 Post subject: |
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Yes Rob, you did indeed help out, many thanks, and you did say fuel! it was just my luck that it broke as you were all heading out, we pulled the tent down and stood in the pissing rain,freezing cold, until the very nice man came, not a nice day!
Re. the fault, I'm working from memory here, but it was a metal hose coming out of the tank, it had been sealed up with silicone, total bodge, it hid the pin hole very well _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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TrooperSimon Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Jun 2012 Posts: 699 Location: Costa Del Doncaster
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 23:58 Post subject: |
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Sorry but our team did have a very small smile when it went past
.............must have been all northerners with a sick sense of humour
infact it was the most cb chat we had all day
anyway non us found the weather amusing
i am glad i was not at base as would probably not have fixed it either..........and hate getting beat
yep will leave you a courtessy trooper you will just have to swap the head for me
cheers
simon |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:06 Post subject: |
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Its just a good job it broke down at the campsite, I wouldn't have enjoyed being stranded on stanage edge on my own.
I go out with a group that doesn't leave anyone behind now _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 19:35 Post subject: |
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jacksdad1963 wrote: |
Its just a good job it broke down at the campsite, I wouldn't have enjoyed being stranded on stanage edge on my own.
I go out with a group that doesn't leave anyone behind now |
Point......You would NOT have been left stranded on the hill on your own,every effort would have been made to get you and your vehicle down and back to base camp or a place where it could have been recovered.
Your unfortunate breakdown was at base camp...... the issue was broardly diagnosed.........what else could be done..... _________________ Khotso........... |
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crusader Lifetime member
Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: Kent
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 20:47 Post subject: |
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Hear,hear. From what i've seen and experienced, everyone on itock will do whatever to help a fellow membe. _________________ On victory, you deserve beer, on defeat, you need it. |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 22:04 Post subject: |
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Hi, I know you wouldn't have left anyone stranded, sorry for posting whilst having a text arguement with my now Ex-girlfriend!
Anyway, hows dwalsh got on with the problem I've hijacked? _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 22:50 Post subject: |
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jacksdad1963 wrote: |
Hi, I know you wouldn't have left anyone stranded, sorry for posting whilst having a text arguement with my now Ex-girlfriend!
Anyway, hows dwalsh got on with the problem I've hijacked? |
Aheerm...We've hijacked
_________________ Khotso........... |
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