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Hunter Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Jul 2010 Posts: 614 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 20:56 Post subject: |
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Mike . I just checked , they have changed the part number .
But it now includes the 3.5, 3.1 & 3.0 .
Looks like they have updated there data base . (Only use to show 2.8 & V6) .
When I was talking to them they didn't know that the swb was made in mk4 .. _________________
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Retro Pedro ***
Joined: 04 May 2010 Posts: 242 Location: South East
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 19:12 Post subject: |
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Feel I've got to give Lokka.com a
In a previous reply in this post there was a bit of mention of Lokka not replying once they've got your money. Thought I was going to have to agree with that pointer when I heard nothing back and not getting my $30 refund, resultant due to the extra postage I had cough up from when the plan of my mate bringing the rear Aussie locker back from California in his suit-case went Pete Tong. Any how, after 6 weeks thought I send the Lokka fella a bit of a cynical e-mail reminding him that he had indicated that he was going to sort out the refund and forward me detailed tolerance info for the front Lokka that I had bought from another networked supplier.
It worked, not only did Mark at Lokka sort out the refund, he also forwarded me a detailed tolerance explanation for the front Aussie locker tolerances when fitted into the Isuzu front diff. And to fair to him, he didn't get my original e-mail because he explained that he had moved back to his own department after doing a stand in stint in the sales area. Can only judge on what I've found, but I believe Mark to have been honest with me throughout the transaction.
For the record, the actual DIY postage as cost me more than if I had used the Lokka facility. That's down to NatWest charging be £10 to transfer the money this side of the pond and the recipients bank charging another £8 to clear State side.
All it needs now is the duty man to give me a bill this side for import duty and I would have really got it wrong |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 23:55 Post subject: |
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Have you fitted the front Lokka then? I'm still trying to decide which setup to go for, I'm really thinking of this because its just so simple, in fact seems 'too good to be true' sort of thing!
Hence me asking for first hand reviews _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 0:03 Post subject: |
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I also tried to get one sent to a mate in Oz, he could then send it to me part by part, and I'd save all the vat and duty: It would be a personal gift of used parts!
Lokka said my mate could order from the Oz company you stated, but would still have to pay Oz duty (10%?) and internal shipping to his address.
may still be a plan, but I'm not 100% happy with the order going through so many stages before it gets to my mate in Oz _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Retro Pedro ***
Joined: 04 May 2010 Posts: 242 Location: South East
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:06 Post subject: |
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jacksdad1963 wrote: |
Have you fitted the front Lokka then? I'm still trying to decide which setup to go for, I'm really thinking of this because its just so simple, in fact seems 'too good to be true' sort of thing!
Hence me asking for first hand reviews |
No, not yet - been lazy on that front. Initially, I thought I could utilise my original smashed Frontera 2.8 front diff (smashed planatory cogs) but the carrier doesn't match the Isuzu carrier so definately can confirm it's got to be Isuzu all the way. I bought a spare 3rd member from Wilky a while back with the intention of fitting the locker in the spare and swapping the 3rd members insitu rather than pulling out the front axle.
I'm sure I could get around the problem, but when I originally swap the smashed Frontera front for the now in place Isuzu Trooper front is was a bit of a mission. One of the captive nuts broke loose from it's weld so we had to do a reweld in place which potentially could be slightly out of alignment. Although we got there in the end, it was a mission securing the Isuzu replacement front diff.
I've got as far as stripping out the spare 3rd member a while back but need to have a slivver skimmed off the supplied tolerance washers to get it within the advised tolerance range. Need to get it over to my mates so he can do the honours for me on his bench metal skimming machine. That's where I'm at.
Making my own excuses, but I'm thinking of taking the truck off the road for a spell next year and doing the rear axle, Trooper solid flywheel and front diff swap all in one go.
I had a look on the Lokka.com site and it seems that price as dropped at fare bit for the rear lockers with postage to UK. $425 as opposed to $485 when I ordered. The saving if you can work it is side stepping our taxman
I'll do a paste and copy of the info Mark from Lokka sent me regarding the front diff tolerances. |
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Retro Pedro ***
Joined: 04 May 2010 Posts: 242 Location: South East
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:35 Post subject: |
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I initially requested the tolerance info because I got my front Aussie locker from USA based Independent 4x4. Being USA based, I wanted to be sure the tolerance figures supplied with the kit were imperial as opposed to metric. Not sure if there's a difference between USA and UK imperial settings. During the correspondence with Oz based Lokka thought I'd ask the question and although Oz is metric, the tolerances from Lokka can still be quoted in imperial. Here's the info that I received.
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The tolerances I think you are referring to, are the inter cam measurement and the spacer to cross shaft clearance ?
If that is not what you are after then please let me know
The intercam gap is usually intended to be between 145thou and a maximum of 165 thou
It is possible for it to be a little less or more - but that isnt usually a good idea without a greater understanding of some other issues involved.
And in any event the latitude is limited.
The spacer to cross shaft measurement is usually between 10 and 20 thou - but a wider variation can exist and not pose any real problem, the main issue here is that symmetry is preserved - ie that both sides are roughly equal.
This particular diff often fits on the tighter side rather than larger.
But if you get 2 thou one side and 30 thou the other then that is more a problem ! - usually solved by swapping thrust washers if they are different or using other thrust washers/shims.
But 8 thou one side and 14 thou the other isnt a big worry.
So try to get a symmetrical clearance if you can - sometimes the OEM thrust washers on each side are different to correct for machining variation in the diff hemisphere- so its important to refit them the right way around.
If you get any greater dimensions than I have supplied here - drop me a line and I can offer further advice. |
May be of use at a later fitting date. |
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rob5464 **
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 98 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 0:10 Post subject: |
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Front lockers are always very difficult to come by. I wanted one in my Shogun but the the money they cost is wasn't worth it as they have rear lockers anyway. |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 0:54 Post subject: |
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Thats the best thing about Lokkas, they cost $385 delivered...if we can get round the import duty and vat!
Even if we pay the full whack, its about £380, so still the cheapest option, and fully automatic: no reaching for the engage button _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Wilky *****
Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 599 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 21:32 Post subject: |
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jacksdad1963 wrote: |
Have you fitted the front Lokka then? I'm still trying to decide which setup to go for, I'm really thinking of this because its just so simple, in fact seems 'too good to be true' sort of thing!
Hence me asking for first hand reviews |
Mines been in for nigh on 3 years and it's faultless, it's had a good work out today at Briercliffe and will be getting another next week on the rocks at Cowm, then it's back to laning for a while, worth every penny, I had to have my thrust washers shimmed down to get the tolerences, needs to be done on a flat bed milling machine.
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:46 Post subject: |
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Any updates on this topic? _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Hunter Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 19:49 Post subject: |
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Looks like best bet is direct from Lokka _________________
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Isuzu_Man03 Lifetime member
Joined: 16 Dec 2012 Posts: 147 Location: Pickering North Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 21:39 Post subject: |
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Lokka is your best bet, I payed £285 all in with import duties and such for mine. Hopefully I'll try and do step by step photos when I do mine. |
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Hunter Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 21:45 Post subject: |
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I didn't manage to do the build thread .
A good build thread made into a sticky would be good _________________
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Isuzu_Man03 Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 22:17 Post subject: |
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I'm trying first to get my head round the setting up process first, might have to have a bit of a play about first before diving into it properly. |
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Hunter Lifetime member
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 0:46 Post subject: |
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Didn't find set up that bad .
I did have to get the thrust washers / spacers machined down a bit to get the tolerance correct .
Once you've had a dry build you get it .
Also there a couple vids on YouTube you may find helpful
Search "Aussie locker install" or something similar .. _________________
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