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Gribble *******
Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 8448 Location: Holset H221W
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Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 17:55 Post subject: |
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Yes thats the one and thats fine for the oil pressure too _________________ 2 New Troopers ! |
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waynus1985 *
Joined: 10 Jan 2014 Posts: 30 Location: hertfordshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 17:13 Post subject: |
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update!! changed the ECT sensor today and it hasnt cured it i took it for a drive and it seems as tho the fault is kicking in quicker every time i take it out.
ive also noticed that when it cuts out on the dual carriage way it wont bump start you have to turn the ignition off and start it by key any ideas would be really apreciated pleeeeeez
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Gribble *******
Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 8448 Location: Holset H221W
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 18:01 Post subject: |
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Really you need T2 now to avoid costs but you could try the white wire trick next _________________ 2 New Troopers ! |
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waynus1985 *
Joined: 10 Jan 2014 Posts: 30 Location: hertfordshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 18:15 Post subject: |
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Yeh thats what im thinking but thank you very much for your help
I know your probaby very busy but where is this white wire and what does it do? if its the plug by the dipstick there isnt a white wire there?
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stevielong Lifetime member
Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 64 Location: gateshead tyne and wear
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 20:41 Post subject: |
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There will be but it will have gone a dirty white or yellow colour by now, look below the multiplug hidden amongst the purple wires _________________ 2000 Duty SWB, now a 3.1 thanks to TrooperDan! |
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 20:44 Post subject: |
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it's probably yellow now with age but it's right in the middle of one of the rows on the car loom side as the injector side is full of pink wires! |
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Browndoff *****
Joined: 22 Mar 2013 Posts: 513 Location: Dublin 13, Ireland
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 20:55 Post subject: |
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If you wish to try this test, it might be better to go to the connector J2 in the middle of those on top of the ECM where the same wire goes into J2-7 - and the wire itself is usually still WHITE here, too! More seriously, though, it's a more convenient place to do the necessary REPAIR-JOB after the test. It's a much handier place to re-solder the wire and re-insulate the cable AND it's a place less subject to vibration, so less likely for a repaired-cable to be later damaged. _________________ 2002 LWB Trooper 3.0L
I've done some major repairs, including replacing half-shaft, replacing fuel-injectors etc. |
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wilf ***
Joined: 07 Dec 2013 Posts: 185 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 20:58 Post subject: |
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I did the 'white wire' trick on mine recently but it had become a NON starter. As soon as I cut the white wire it started instantly. If you need to cut the white wire it is best to cut it at the ECM end, it can be found in the center plug (J2) that goes into the top of the ECM. If my memory serves me correctly it is the only white wire in that plug and is terminal #7.
I cut mine behind the opening section of the plug under the rubber boot so when it was rejoined it was not visible and protected from the elements. |
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waynus1985 *
Joined: 10 Jan 2014 Posts: 30 Location: hertfordshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 21:15 Post subject: |
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I can honestly say say ive been a member at a lot of car clubs but none have been as helpful as the people at this one i really do apreciate it lads thank you
now the *beep* lickins done so this white wire trick if the old girl runs spot on after cutting this it will tell me that the oil pressure sensor is faulty? is that right?
can it carry on running this way? even tho id replace it anyway
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wilf ***
Joined: 07 Dec 2013 Posts: 185 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 21:17 Post subject: |
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This is where I cut mine.
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wilf ***
Joined: 07 Dec 2013 Posts: 185 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 21:18 Post subject: |
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Whoops, sorry about the massive picture, it won't happen again. |
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 21:22 Post subject: |
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the reason you do it at the injector plug is because the pin can be removed very easy from the plug and refitted without the need for actually cutting the wire but each to their own i suppose |
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Browndoff *****
Joined: 22 Mar 2013 Posts: 513 Location: Dublin 13, Ireland
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 21:23 Post subject: |
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As mentioned in dozens of other posts on the 'White-wire-trick', when it's CUT - the ECM is getting the impression that the Oil-Pressure is at Maximum - so it fires the Injectors - but it actually sets them for minimal injection-time [to suit the max pressure!]. The engine would only limp along, with little or no response to throttle-movement.
So, you have NO CHOICE - repair wire and replace ORPS - IFF indeed the test DOES show that it's faulty! If it doesn't fire, with the wire cut, then the ORPS is probable 'NOT GUILTY', yer Honour, Sir! _________________ 2002 LWB Trooper 3.0L
I've done some major repairs, including replacing half-shaft, replacing fuel-injectors etc. |
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 21:28 Post subject: |
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it actually drives ok just a bit harsh when pulling away theres no limping along at all but this is a TEST only do not drive it incase it damages the engine |
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waynus1985 *
Joined: 10 Jan 2014 Posts: 30 Location: hertfordshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 22:00 Post subject: |
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brilliant i shall tries this tomorrow and keep you updated thanks lads
wayne |
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