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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 23:00    Post subject: Afterglow timer Reply with quote

My Trooper is a1995, 3.1d, it smokes and is lumpy on cold starts, I have tested the system and found the afterglow relay not working,
If I take a wire from the battery and energise the coil the relay clicks in and powers the glow plugs at 6V, (no lumps and no smoke)
There is 12v to the coil side of the relay with the ign on but no earth,  
can I guess that the afterglow timer completes the earth circut and pulls in the relay,
My question is where is the timer and what does it look like?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 23:42    Post subject: Re: Afterglow timer Reply with quote

triumph1 wrote:
My Trooper is a1995, 3.1d, it smokes and is lumpy on cold starts, I have tested the system and found the afterglow relay not working,
If I take a wire from the battery and energise the coil the relay clicks in and powers the glow plugs at 6V, (no lumps and no smoke)
There is 12v to the coil side of the relay with the ign on but no earth,  
can I guess that the afterglow timer completes the earth circut and pulls in the relay,
My question is where is the timer and what does it look like?


Hi mate mine is located on the drivers side behind the bumper chassie rail area  its a box about 4x3 inchish
put this number into Eblay and it with show you what yor looking for 151248068752
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 23:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

It`s the resistor for dropping the voltage thats behind the bumper. or at least it is on mine!

Cheers for the reply tho.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pre glow and aftergow are done through the QOS -111 control system  which has the two relays in . Its on page 6D6 - 2  and 8D-114 of the manual .

The actual QOS timer  unit looks like its on the engine bulkhead in the middle but I've not tested one so not 100% sure .

It might be the thermo sensor is not working so it wont pull in the afterglow relay .

A on-off switch to do pre and after glow might be a cheap solution ?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea where the timer is? And where is the thermo switch?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 18:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

The actual QOS timer  unit looks like its on the engine bulkhead in the middle

The thermo sensor is in the thermostat housing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 22:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant find the afterglow timer and i am un sure which sender on the thermostat housing controls the timer?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 14:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you looked at the pages in the manual I have posted all will become clear.
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