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afcfrance *
Joined: 02 Sep 2016 Posts: 14 Location: france
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 17:17 Post subject: trooper citation will not start |
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my 2002 trooper will not start, it was working normally, then i changed the radio, and it worked normally for a few days. then it started to get difficult to start, and then it would crank but not start, and the anti theft light was flashing, i turned that off, but it will still not start. any ideas i am new to this veichle |
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 20:16 Post subject: |
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any other symptoms? random cutting out, no throttle response etc etc
and what have you done to stop the anti theft light flashing? |
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afcfrance *
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 21:14 Post subject: |
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they are the only symptoms, and to turn the anti-theft off, i put the key in the ignition, and locked the door manually (with the buttons), and and unlocked and locked the door a couple of times, and turned the key in the ignition a couple of times, and the anti-theft went off. i have checked all the fuses, and they all looked good.
the only other thing that it might be, (because i saw a thread on your forum about it) is that i had filled the fuel tank up to the top, because i am hoping to drive down to spain soon. if you have any ideas i will be very grateful |
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eithan h Moderator
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 21:54 Post subject: |
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Try the white wire trick to rule out the orps as its a common sensor that goes wrong and causes non starts. |
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afcfrance *
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 13:05 Post subject: |
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i removed the white/yellow wire, and the 4x4 started first time. so what is the problem? can i fix it? and i need to drive to spain (1000km) in 2 weeks can i do that with the wire of? |
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eithan h Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 13:09 Post subject: |
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you need a new orps and ideally it needs to be calibrated to run at it's optimum but it will start and you can drive it without coding it in but it may under or over fuel slightly. can be fitted at home you will need to remove the rocker cover and have a ground down 14mm spanner to remove the sensor.
the white wire removal is for test purposes only don't drive it with it disconnected as it could cause engine damage due to the fuelling being wrong |
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afcfrance *
Joined: 02 Sep 2016 Posts: 14 Location: france
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 13:30 Post subject: |
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living in france could be a problem, getting it fixed, although i could probably do it myself. but where can i order the part from? |
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eithan h Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 13:55 Post subject: |
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give us a ring on monday we can send one out to you 01993771286 |
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afcfrance *
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 14:11 Post subject: |
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i have almost stripped everything down, got the 27mm spanner undone the large nut but the pipe has not come out, so i cannot get the rocker cover off. any suggestions? |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 15:11 Post subject: |
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afcfrance wrote: |
i have almost stripped everything down, got the 27mm spanner undone the large nut but the pipe has not come out, so i cannot get the rocker cover off. any suggestions? |
Undone the other end of the pipe ? _________________ Khotso........... |
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afcfrance *
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 15:38 Post subject: |
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no this is my first time. thank you for the advice |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 15:48 Post subject: |
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afcfrance wrote: |
no this is my first time. thank you for the advice |
Watch you don't lose the face seal "O" rings _________________ Khotso........... |
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afcfrance *
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 16:15 Post subject: |
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have just tried to get the bottom 27mm nut off, but will not budge, not a lot of room to work with, any suggestion that might help |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 17:00 Post subject: |
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afcfrance wrote: |
have just tried to get the bottom 27mm nut off, but will not budge, not a lot of room to work with, any suggestion that might help |
Is there a battery on that side ?....If so remove to give more room, you'll need two spanners, one on the pipe nut and one on the fitting going into the non-return valve. Place both spanners so that they are in a scissor configuration then squeeze together with one or both hands.
Best to disconnect both batteries totally making sure you don't flash over onto the ECU casing. _________________ Khotso........... |
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afcfrance *
Joined: 02 Sep 2016 Posts: 14 Location: france
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 17:17 Post subject: |
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the ORPS arrived this morning. is now fitted, took the veichle out for a drive, when i changed down to 2nd, or was driving up a steep hill the engine died. started ok again. engine light came on. got home turned the engine off, and then turned back on no engine light. is this a fuel problem? |
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