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TimBanham Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 1258 Location: Newark, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:06 Post subject: |
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Although do make sure you are legal as my friend found out to his cost when his van overtook his car on the motorway and the police fined him 180 quid for the pleasure (although his insurance paid out for a new van) _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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Chrisuzu **
Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 67 Location: Chesterfield,Derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:08 Post subject: |
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Nice one.... Well I passed my test in 1988 so should be ok.
Just rang several Hobby dealers for their views/opinions and all say cant tow this caravan with a vehicle under 3500kgs..
Just about to ring DVLA see what they say. _________________ 1996 Bighorn 3.1td LWB. Lotus Edition. |
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Chris B Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 3537 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:13 Post subject: |
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Chrisuzu wrote: |
Just rang several Hobby dealers for their views/opinions and all say cant tow this caravan with a vehicle under 3500kgs.. |
Which weight are they referring to with the 3500kgs ... Unladen Tow car weight? Gross Tow car weight? Towing capacity? _________________ Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max LE | 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT LTM No.60
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Chrisuzu **
Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 67 Location: Chesterfield,Derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:17 Post subject: |
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Could you confirm what my ... Unladen Tow car weight? Gross Tow car weight? Towing capacity? is please, so I can go back through to them.
Thanks _________________ 1996 Bighorn 3.1td LWB. Lotus Edition. |
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TimBanham Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 1258 Location: Newark, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:24 Post subject: |
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Chris
It should be on the VIN plate under the bonnet.
One will be the weight of the car, one will be the maximum towing weight and one will be the total that the two cannot exceed. _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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TimBanham Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 1258 Location: Newark, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:38 Post subject: |
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plus if you pay these people they will tell you
http://www.towsafe.co.uk/ _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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Chrisuzu **
Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 67 Location: Chesterfield,Derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:41 Post subject: |
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Many thanks for all your replies I will have a look tonight. _________________ 1996 Bighorn 3.1td LWB. Lotus Edition. |
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Chris B Lifetime member
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:45 Post subject: |
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A quote off their site ...
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The 85% guideline is generally recommended for beginners. This industry recommendation restricts the laden weight of the caravan to 85% of the towcar's kerbweight. For the more experienced tower the industry recommendation is that the laden weight of the caravan does not exceed 100% of the car's kerbweight. This is not the law but it is good advice. Outfits in which the caravan outweighs the car are definitely not recommended. |
_________________ Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max LE | 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT LTM No.60
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TimBanham Lifetime member
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:12 Post subject: |
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Chrisuzu wrote: |
Many thanks for all your replies I will have a look tonight. |
Let us know how you get on - the van sounds good looking at Hobby's website _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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Webby *****
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 536 Location: Suffolk
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 13:23 Post subject: |
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No, you can't tow this caravan with a trooper or bighorn. Yes it is within the weight limits of the towing vehicle but because it weighs less than 3.5t when loaded, the maximum length of trailer which you can legally tow is 7m(23.1feet).
More infomation can be found on the DoT website. _________________ Isuzu Trooper SWB 3.0DT Commercial |
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TimBanham Lifetime member
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 13:42 Post subject: |
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Webby
I stand corrected - didn't spot that little issue
This may be why it is such a bargain! _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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Chrisuzu **
Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 67 Location: Chesterfield,Derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 13:57 Post subject: |
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Thanks for that webby, These caravans are usually sited permanently on a site and not used for a lot towing/touring, which I now know why!!, I was just looking at it because it was going for the right price.
Thanks again.....Found out some good information for future use. _________________ 1996 Bighorn 3.1td LWB. Lotus Edition. |
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Chris01 **
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 14:04 Post subject: |
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I have towed a 3000kg boat and trailer combination and the Trooper is ideal and legal for this, although you are unwise to exceed 50mph with that weight. The 85% thing is a caravan club recommendation and it seems no one anywhere will contradict this officialy.
My boat and tralier exceeded 7m, but with boats you are allowed to overhang the tralier by an amount I can't remember, but the total length of my combination was about 8.5m. Not sure how this applies to a caravan though, whether the "van" can be defined as a load separate to the "trailer" or chassis, if Hobby said no then I guess you can't tow it because its too long and thats it |
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TimBanham Lifetime member
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 14:20 Post subject: |
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Chrisuzu
If you are interested in an another van then a mate of mine is selling on and he is near your neck of the woods
PM if you want any details _________________ 3.0TD LWB Citation |
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Chris B Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 3537 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 14:28 Post subject: |
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Aha! I have found it... the caravan is within the weight limit of the trooper but at 29ft its over the maximum length of 7m (23ft approx).
Full info here - http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/law/dimensions.htm _________________ Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max LE | 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT LTM No.60
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