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| I also tow a hobby caravan with my 3.1td. It tows no problem and the weight is fine. The problem is the width of the hobby. Technically you cant tow these caravans unless it's with a commercial vehicle over 3.5tonnes. The width is only about 6inches over the legal size i think(3" per side). The hobby comes in at the same width as an truck. They are legal on the roads so don't understand the problem myself. |
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Peej
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 15:08 Post subject: |
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No, you can't tow this caravan with a trooper or bighorn. Yes it is within the weight limits of the towing vehicle but because it weighs less than 3.5t when loaded, the maximum length of trailer which you can legally tow is 7m(23.1feet).
More infomation can be found on the DoT website. |
Have I missed something? Is this trailer length different to caravan length? Otherwise there are a lot of illegal units around, mine is 23ft 6" and that's still a single axle, most of the popular twin axles must be over that length. |
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TimBanham
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 15:09 Post subject: |
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No, you can't tow this caravan with a trooper or bighorn. Yes it is within the weight limits of the towing vehicle but because it weighs less than 3.5t when loaded, the maximum length of trailer which you can legally tow is 7m(23.1feet).
More infomation can be found on the DoT website. |
Have I missed something? Is this trailer length different to caravan length? Otherwise there are a lot of illegal units around, mine is 23ft 6" and that's still a single axle, most of the popular twin axles must be over that length. |
Its the length excluding the tow hitch and a frame
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 15:13 Post subject: |
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| Ta, just read that bit! |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 19:21 Post subject: |
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Sorry posted in a rush, didn't make it very clear.
An inch here and there won't make too much difference so long as you know where you stand.
As has been said on here before now VOSA are making more checks no-one is safe and it's only a matter of time before they move from cars and trailers on to caravans.
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Peej
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 19:28 Post subject: |
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| Webby wrote: |
Sorry posted in a rush, didn't make it very clear.
An inch here and there won't make too much difference so long as you know where you stand.
As has been said on here before now VOSA are making more checks no-one is safe and it's only a matter of time before they move from cars and trailers on to caravans. |
I didn't read the " less tow frame bit".  One would suppose the caravan makers of the twin axles, make them on the limit. The continental vans though are big, I know of a few monsters in our club and one of them is towed by a car!  |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 19:39 Post subject: |
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As long as people know their limits then it will all be ok!?! It only takes a min not paying attention for something to get out of control. Having had trailers snake on me in the past, i am now much more careful. Would not like to be in a car if the trailer took control, its bad enough in a heavy trooper!
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Peej
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 19:56 Post subject: |
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| Webby wrote: |
| As long as people know their limits then it will all be ok!?! It only takes a min not paying attention for something to get out of control. Having had trailers snake on me in the past, i am now much more careful. Would not like to be in a car if the trailer took control, its bad enough in a heavy trooper! |
I would agree, I grew up on a farm and have towed a lot, the police will look for things that are blatantly dangerous and not within the design limits of the vehicle. You have to be sensible with weights and loading, it's never nice when the tail wags the dog! |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 20:37 Post subject: |
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if you tow without a rear number plate and stay below 50mph you will not get pulled its a unwritten rule with the travellers ,go above 50 and you will get pulled.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 20:38 Post subject: |
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So what's the answer then my head hurts now  |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 20:42 Post subject: |
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The caravan is within the weight limits of the trooper but at 29ft long is over the maximum length towable by a vehicle under 3500kg
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frank sucevic
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 20:47 Post subject: |
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| Peter Bonnell wrote: |
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its illegal to do anything that involves fun
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 20:48 Post subject: |
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| Chris Beesley wrote: |
| The caravan is within the weight limits of the trooper but at 29ft long is over the maximum length towable by a vehicle under 3500kg |
Forgive me if I've missed it, but having a quick look through the thread have we ascertained whether this Hobby is 29 ft total length or just the body. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 21:46 Post subject: |
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| what about width. hobbys tend to be to wide, and need towing with 7.5tonner... |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 23:15 Post subject: |
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Went to look at the hobby earlier, its 26ft interior length(the body) 29 ft in total, so still too long to 'legally' tow. Shame because its in mint condition.
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