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3.1td lwb trooper conking out when at a stand still

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:00    Post subject: 3.1td lwb trooper conking out when at a stand still Reply with quote

hope someone can help!
my car starts, but not aswell as normally, she ticks over, but once you take your foot off the pedal, she judders and loses power, this happens when I am driving, when I slow down at a junction and take my foot off the peddle to change gears, she loses power and stalls

we fitted another fuel filter and put in the cleaner in the fuel tank, she was taken for a blast last night, and she is still the same

can anyone help and tell me what her problem is,  she air filter is  fine and  the oil one...

I am on a tight budget this month so any tips to get it sorted without a huge garage bill would be fabs!!

thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the old favourite of air in the fuel supply. If the problem started after the filter was changed it may just be that it still needs more bleeding otherwise you need to look for places where air could get in.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 22:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you change the fuel filter after the problem started or before? Is it 3.0 or 3.1?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 22:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

normskee wrote:
Is it 3.0 or 3.1?


Sorry just noticed it's a 3.1.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 23:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

a way to see if theres air in the system , is to use a length of clear hose from the fuel line to the inlet pipe on the filter . if theres any air in the system it'll show bubbles in the pipe ....
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 23:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the replys,
well I took her to a garage (the one I always use) he said it was the whatsit the fuel filter is in..(sorry I cant remember the name) needs replacing as the air is getting in...he put sealent on to see if it would temp fix it...as they couldnt fix today as I need a part...anyway he can get a universal part cheaper as the other one from a main dealer is £120, the uni one is £65..
anyway...I started to drive home, tried to turn left, lost all power,  and power steering and almost killed someone! so had a Bazil Faulty moment,

thanks all for your replies, she is now at the garage and getting sorted in the morning
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 0:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "watsit" sounds like the filter housing with priming pump. Was the problem before or after the filter change?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

the problem started before, it started last saturday, I conked out on a slopping hill out side sainsburys at traffic lights, YES thats what I meant the housing thing....sorry I am not very good with engines and the names for things..(can you tell) btw if it helps I am female, the car is in today so hopefully that will be the end of it
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

toffee wrote:
btw if it helps I am female,


It doesn't help me as I'm not predjudiced Smile  
Is it fair to assume that the garage changed the filter and the problem persists? Was it quite a steep slope when the problem first started? If so it could possibly be a problem with the pick-up pipe in the tank but fingers crossed they will solve it today and you can be mobile again Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 15:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

check fuel pipes above rear axle for corrosion or pipes that come from top of fuel tank hope this helps thumbup
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 17:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE!! still in garage they think well KNOW its now a fuel leak, they think its behind the fuel tank, as the tank is soaked in diesel, but the nuts are solid, so its taking time to remove....they say they cant see whats leaking until the tank is removed I hope its the pipe that has split....I am dreading the phone call, I hope its not the tank, as I am skint, and cant afford to replace it...and its the pipes....
Fingers crossed...anyone got a spare fuel tank lol
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 18:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

another update!
she needs new pipes and a tank...£300 fitted, cant get part for one week

no car for a week!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 18:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milner do a new tank for £170+vat and £7.00 for 48hr delivery
http://www.milneroffroad.com/MECH5.HTM
I think thats about £207  Question
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's bad news toffee Crying or Very sad  There aren't many, good 2nd hand ones about so Marks suggestion about Milners would get the job done a bit quicker. You could call a few local car radiator or car body panel suppliers as they keep fuel tanks as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 22:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the link, but I am going to just leave it with the garage, he said if he can take it off and not damage it, it could be fyboglassed(sp) which will seal it, but he is still ordering the tank just incase,
I have got my morris minor ready for the summer season, so using that for now, which is great but not the same as my beloved trooper....but very enjoyable
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