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reborntrooper · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 16:12 Post subject: Come on Isuzu!

This is reallybugging me now had all checked out ,proper oil but still the last person in the car park with the 10-15 seconds of cranking her over to start! Surely theres a fix for this? bigger starter motor, heavier duty batteries? Getting the the pee taken out of me more and more about the "DUFF" car I,ve bought Embarassed

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TimBanham · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 17:07 Post subject:

Ok - assuming you have a 3.0TD then this is the norm - as no diesel is injected until the oil pressure has been built up which takes a few cranks.

You could check your glow plugs I suppose (have you actually timed it to see if it really takes a long as you think ?)
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rallymarshall · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 17:40 Post subject:

mines a 3.0 and takes on average about 3 seconds of turning over before it starts, when i bought it it seemed sluggish turning over but i put that down to the previous owner being old(explains why the clutch went putt at 34500) but a few good runs upto the red line (i know i shouldnt) and it goes a lot better and turns over quicker but still takes 3 seconds to fire up
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Chris B · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 18:11 Post subject:

As the guys have already mentioned the 3.0 does need the oil pressure to be pumped up to a certain pressure before the injectors will fire.... but that said 10-15 seconds sounds like a long time!
On some of the earlier 3.0 motors there was a slight niggle with fuel draining back into the tank shen parked up... this can be cured by the dealers fitting a one way valve in the fuel line (or you can buy the kit from milners and fit yourself)
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reborntrooper · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 18:13 Post subject:

Was taking longer but garage found wrong oil! Just serviced before sale to me by an Isuzu dealer! Its a 2005 registered vehicle with only 14000 on the clock so shouldn't be a issue with being too old. My local dealer checked it out and lo and behold when i picked her up she started within a few cranks, but now seems to have laxed to a longer period( true might be exagerating in my mind as people walk by laughing at her cranking over!) But seems to me that there must be a more powerfull setup required to crank it over quicker to gain the oil pressure?
Meanwhile trying to convince work collegues that this is the design of the beast is getting harder every imbarising moment! Embarassed

reborntrooper · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 18:25 Post subject:

:shock:OK sure I,m thick as two short planks but is there a part number or code for the non-return fuel line kit on Milners site? Embarassed

TimBanham · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 18:39 Post subject:

reborntrooper · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 18:49 Post subject:

Can't they've already gone! Laughing

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Chris B · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 19:37 Post subject:

Its listed as an "Engine Hard Start Kit" under Part Code: 004928K

http://www.milneroffroad.com/MECH5.HTM
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reborntrooper · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 22:52 Post subject:

Cheers Chris........I am truely blind! 8)

drmuir · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:17 Post subject:

my trooper is a 2005 would it benefit from fitting the engine hard start kit or is the problem not so bad in newer models .

Chris B · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:40 Post subject:

The hard start kit is inly needed if you have diesel draining back to the tank and causing it to crank over for long periods before starting. The 3.0 will take a few turns before firing due to the design of the injection system and this is nothing to worry about.
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TimBanham · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:46 Post subject:

chris doy know how difficult it is to fit?
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Webby · ***** Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 536 Location: Suffolk

Just fitted 2 new batteries, slightly bigger than those fitted from new. Now takes hardly any time to start. Would recomend having the batteries checked if the car is slow to start.
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Chris B · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 14:43 Post subject: