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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:12    Post subject: 2WD to 4WD whilst moving Reply with quote

Just bought 3.1 auto. No owners manual etc....

Fitted General Grabber AT2 265/75/16 tyres today as we got ever so slightly stuck in a ditch with road tyres in 2WD  Shocked  - 4WD got us out without problem  Very Happy .

Might just be new toy effect but I'm sure they ride on the road heaps better than 235/70/16 - back to try that ditch later!

Anyway - is it possible/advisable to change 2H-4H-4L whilst moving forwards to make full use of momentum? I remember doing this with previous Range Rover.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi and welcome  Very Happy

Has it got Auto locking hubs on the front or just blank plates ?
Also what year is it ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a 1992 mk2 with Auto hubs...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

penyrhelddu wrote:
its a 1992 mk2 with Auto hubs...

In that case no you should not shift on the fly, Sorry  Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok - thanks  for your help..
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 0:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

no dont do that mate, you need to stop between shifting between low hi and 2wd.

im in ammanford too and have a hub here damaged from doing as you suggested, would happily show you the damage!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jon

The kids are dying to go off road - maybe you know of some good spots?

Mark
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

now.... I was under the impression that if you went into 4wd, locked the hubs off (auto), went back into 2wd, and as long as there was no reversing (such as going out laning over different surfaces) then there was no problems from going 2 - 4 - 2 - 4.

Not recommended since you have to keep an eye on popping into reverse and unlocking the hubs, but since the hubs are already locked there's no problems doing it.




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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 13:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

dxmedia wrote:
now.... I was under the impression that if you went into 4wd, locked the hubs off (auto), went back into 2wd, and as long as there was no reversing (such as going out laning over different surfaces) then there was no problems from going 2 - 4 - 2 - 4.

DONT try this on amy Shift On the Fly models... it confuses the system!  Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 14:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if you had MANUAL hubs previously locked into lock position you could "shift-on-the-fly" into 4WD high (at a sensible i.e. 30 mph speed) yes or no?

Can't remember.... Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 15:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

no you cant shift at all on the move. Having locking hubs allows you to run 2wd low thats the only benefit
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 17:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the only benefit, but an important one on (dry) rocks without destroying your (auto) hubs. Also in deep snow (please please) having to reverse continuously tends to knacker auto-hubs in short order so that's another. Thanks for the info on shifting on the move - probably saved me finding out the hard way.... Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 17:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im getting confused now..

Rocks, snow, reversing?

When is it OK to switch to 4WD?

I know you should only do it off road... Should I only use 4H once traction is lost in 2WD - then 4H/4L if that doesnt work?

My thought when you see a possible *obstacle* ie snow/mud/incline stop and select 4H/4L but what if 2WD would have done or the traction is too much for 4WD.....???

More confused...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 20:17    Post subject: shift on the fly Reply with quote

Hi there,
Now I am under the impression that you can engage the 4WD on the move, drive on a suitable surface, then dis engage 4WD after you have crossed the slippery surface.

Then to un lock those auto hubs, while in 2WD reverse the vehicle for a while.

You should NEVER chainge the HIGH 2 LOW while moving.

If I am incorrect in any way please let me know.
Nice manual hubs allow you to trick the "system" and run in 2WD low, if in the un locked position.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

The earlier models I believe, the vehicle had to be stopped to shift to 4x4 whether in high or low range. The later models had a system called shift on the fly, which allowed shifting to 4x4 high only, on the move up to 60 mph, these models had fixed hubs. The same rules apply to whatever system, as in only to engage 4x4 on loose or muddy surfaces,engaging on hard grippy surfaces could result in damage. The point that was made about those with manual hubs is that you could be in 4x4 low, but by not engaging the hubs, you would not actually be in 4x4, useful when reversing or needing the slower speeds on a hard surface.
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