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Keithy *
Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Dundee
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 19:49 Post subject: Hard to start in the morning |
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Hi, now thwe cold mornings have started coming in, i've found it very difficult to start my troop. its a 98 3.0td, I have changed the glow plugs and i still have the same problem. It turns over for a long time before it will start. usually to the point the battery goes flat. Is it possible that i could be drawing air into the fuel system somehow?
Once she has started i dont have any trouble starting again that day, I only find it difficult to start after she is left overnight?
and yes... i'm using the correct oil
Can anyone help??? _________________ 98' Isuzu Trooper 3.0 citation swb
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Philp *******
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 3869 Location: Shropshire
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 20:02 Post subject: |
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I'd say thats a distinct possibility, that fuel is draining back into the tank overnight. Try nipping up the fuel filterand check all the hose clips. _________________ Phil
96 or is it a 98 Isuzu Bighorn Lotus |
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Keithy *
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 20:10 Post subject: |
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i'll give that a try tomorrow. is it possible to install some sort of non return valve? i'm starting to fear that my last play day has caused it. It was fine before then _________________ 98' Isuzu Trooper 3.0 citation swb
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 20:16 Post subject: |
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I think its a know problem and a kit is available, i'm sure the 3.0 geeks gurus will know more _________________ |
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Keithy *
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 20:21 Post subject: |
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ok thanks, i'll leave this open for discussion, anyone????? _________________ 98' Isuzu Trooper 3.0 citation swb
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eithan h Moderator
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 8195 Location: oxfordish
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 22:28 Post subject: |
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yep first port of call would be to fit the non return valve in the fuel return line then if it still does it bypass the filter housing for a night and see if it starts any better the next day.
does it give out whiteish smoke when it does fire up? |
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Keithy *
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 15:17 Post subject: |
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eithan h wrote: |
does it give out whiteish smoke when it does fire up? |
Yes mate _________________ 98' Isuzu Trooper 3.0 citation swb
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Keithy *
Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Dundee
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 15:18 Post subject: |
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Keithy wrote: |
eithan h wrote: |
does it give out whiteish smoke when it does fire up? |
Yes mate |
Or i would say just before it starts _________________ 98' Isuzu Trooper 3.0 citation swb
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eithan h Moderator
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 15:20 Post subject: |
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sounds like it's the fuel running out of the head then so defo give the one way valve a go first |
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Keithy *
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 15:25 Post subject: |
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eithan h wrote: |
sounds like it's the fuel running out of the head then so defo give the one way valve a go first |
ok so which hose should i fit the valve to? filter to engine or tank to filter?? _________________ 98' Isuzu Trooper 3.0 citation swb
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eithan h Moderator
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 15:29 Post subject: |
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neither you want the fuel return line so engine back to tank |
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Keithy *
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 15:32 Post subject: |
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ahh ok, i'll have to look for that one, never seen it before _________________ 98' Isuzu Trooper 3.0 citation swb
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eithan h Moderator
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 15:33 Post subject: |
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it comes off the very back of the head on the passenger side, it's a single rubber pipe coming out from underneath the manifold normally held in place with a white pinch type clip |
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Keithy *
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 15:35 Post subject: |
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ok thanks for that mate, i'll have a go with it and let you know how i get on _________________ 98' Isuzu Trooper 3.0 citation swb
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Keithy *
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 22:00 Post subject: |
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Right.... Firstly before leaving the car last night i bypassed the filter housing by joining the two hoses together. This morning still the same problems. I've also found out this morning, that the glow plugs i fitted were shorting out to the cyl head, (fuse was blown) I've stopped them shorting out and replaced the fuse, just have to wait until tomorrow now to see if she starts (fingers crossed)
I also got in touch with Fiskens of Forfar (my nearest Isuzu dealer) and found out that all the recalls have been done on my motor. That has given me some peace of mind.
I'll keep you all posted how i get on tomorrow. _________________ 98' Isuzu Trooper 3.0 citation swb
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