Isuzu Trooper Owners Club UK™

ft100 · * Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 33

Hi, Can anyone tell me if the factory fitted alarm and immobiliser on a 2000 troooper is thatcham approved? My insurance won't cover me for theft until i have one fitted. The auto electrician who has quoted to fit a thatcham approved alarm thinks that the original unit meets thatcham 2 requirements but is not 100% sure. has anybody else had similar problems with their insurance? if so how did you manage to convince the insurance that the factory fitted system meets the standard. I would be gratefull for some good news, afterall Iv'e had enough problems with this...... can't find the right word. thanks

Google · Sponsor

fifth4x4 · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 17:53 Post subject:

according to my insurance company the factory fitted alarm and immobiliser on my '97 trooper wasn't thatcham approved and I had to have one fitted. Got mine from a place in Birmingham. I only had to have an immobiliser fitted for ins. purposes but had the alarm fitted as well and so now have remote central locking Smile

_________________
97 3.1TD LWB RED!

KevinF · ** Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 81 Location: Hungerford

Confirmed. It is Thatcham approved as an immobiliser, but not as an alarm installation, on account of not including interior ultrasonic. You'll need to get an alarm retrofitted.

KevinF.
_________________
2002 3.0 DT Commercial.

ft100 · * Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 33

That's good news, The insurance company require a certificate to validate it, I have tried my local isuzu dealership but in all honesty they are useless. any ideas as to how I could obtain a certificate? I dont require an alarm for the insurance, just the immobiliser, I just thought if I was going to have to pay for an immobiliser I might as well upgrade the alarm at the same time. Thanks

gotalast · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 21:38 Post subject: factory alarm on 2000 trooper

If you go to the Thatcham site there is a section where you can check what the spec your alarm is and to which category it is approved. The standard factory fit model is not very good but it is adequate for where I live in West Berks and I have been with two different insurance companies now and they simply asked if alarm was fitted.

ft100 · * Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 33

I have been on the thatcham site but the trooper isn't listed, just about every other vehicle is though.

ft100 · * Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 33

I have phoned thatcham to ask about the factory fitted system, they have confirmed that it DOES NOT meet their requirements.this may be of use to people who have simply upgraded their systems by adding a thatcham approved alram, by having just the alarm fitted some people assume their vehicle is at catagory 1 when in fact by not having the immobiliser upgraded at the same time it renders the the upgraded alarm useless(in the insurance companies eyes) This would have the effect of making the policy void for theft. Thanks for all the response.

KevinF · ** Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 81 Location: Hungerford

You asked Thatcham the wrong question. On its own the Isuzu immobiliser is not approved.

With (some types of) interior ultrasonic alarm retrofitted, the ensemble does constitute an approved system.

I am with Tesco (currently, formerly with Bell Direct). Both happily accepted this type of installation - Bell with a certificate proving the retrofit, Tesco with simply a letter from me confirming the type of system.

Sheesh.

K.
_________________
2002 3.0 DT Commercial.

ian roby · Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 21:31 Post subject:

I DONT WANT TO SOUND A BIT DAFT HERE BUT I JUST WENT OUT AND BOUGHT A THATCHAM APROVED DISCLOK ( IE ) ITS NOW IMOBLISED AND ITS A GOOD VISABLE DETERANT SO NO BUST DOORLOCKS ETC BECAUSE THE THIEF WONT GO TO ALL THE TROUBLE OF TRYING TO GET ONE OF THESE OFF (( I HOPE ))

KevinF · ** Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 81 Location: Hungerford

You know the most effective way of ensuring your Trooper does not get nicked?

Buy a 3.0 DT of course!

No-one in their right mind would steal it!

Rgds to all.

KevinF.
_________________
2002 3.0 DT Commercial.

Dafydd Wynn Williams · Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 22:10 Post subject: As posted

Your wrong there KevinF! There must still be more like you and me out there who didnt know or we would have thought longer before buying one.

Dafydd (2000 4JX1 commercial)

CraigAUS · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:02 Post subject:

Your not wrong.
I am told that the factory fitted immobiliser is sequenced to the engine ECU. If either breaks down you need to replace both.
_________________
Lord give me patience.
Right bloody now!

fifth4x4 · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:00 Post subject:

and if you have an alarm/immobiliser fitted because your insurance company says so then you stand a good chance of messing things up with the Engine ECU as seems to have happened with my Troop Sad

_________________
97 3.1TD LWB RED!

suzu · **** Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 336

craig with reference to the ecu's they can be coded individually but you need all sorts of codes to do it and you don't have to replace them both if one goes down.

CraigAUS · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:33 Post subject:

That sounds fair enough.

The reason I mentioned this was due to a problem I had in 2001.
In Australia we didn't receive the turbo/strainer recall.
My vehicle broke down and the local dealers were stumped on what was wrong with it. They tried everything from injectors to oil gallery exchange, even removed the head, exchanged the wiring harness and of course the ECU.
But when they replaced the ecu they pulled half my dash apart. When I questioned them over this they told me the ecu and immobiliser were coded together and had to be exchanged as a set.

I believe at this time they were learning a lot about these vehicles.

The fault was eventually found to be the oil strainer allowing air into the oil feed for the injectors.

This took the vehicle off the road for a month.
_________________
Lord give me patience.
Right bloody now!