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aduncan · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 22:08 Post subject: LR Freelander2 Auto Box - DEAD !

Mmmmm,

I see in this sub forum it was me last to post about another vehicle in the fleet.
Now for number 3 !

The wife's FR is 57 Plate 2.2 Auto.
Ex Demonstrator, with full LR service history, now 4 yr 2 mo old on 51,000 Miles.

We were away at the weekend and whilst away the "Transmission Fault" message came up on the screen.
It would reset if Turned off and restarted etc, but would pop back up on the screen.
100 miles later (on the way home) it hunted for 5th and then promptly died - stopping the engine whilst I was in the outside lane of the M1.

Rolled to the hard shoulder and restarted to find the gear selector moved, but drive would not engage.

We have had the car towed back to our LR dealer, who has told me the G/Box is knackered and a new one required.

£3,266.

Thoughts ? I accept it is out of Warranty, but surely a sealed for life box, not even needing an oil change for 150k should not implode at 50,000 miles?

LR don't really want to know about helping out.
Everyone says its highly unusual - to me , it highly expensive !!!

I have since found a few threads in various Forums and a couple of others have the same disasters at circa 50-60k. Generally just out of Warranty too.

I have asked for Goodwill from LR and pending their response I will either stick with them or rock up in the Troopr with a trailer and take it elsewhere Very Happy

and turn my back on LR for good.
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richard wilkinson · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 22:51 Post subject:

so what was the reason for the fault
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aduncan · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 22:55 Post subject:

Not knowing - they just say it is knackered.

All sorts of digging going on and a few others have hit the skids too.
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aduncan · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:04 Post subject:

Interesting Article leads to this recall.
http://www.freel2.com/gallery/albums...383/q059ex.pdf

Odd the 'regional location' - but my VIN number is SALFA23B77H038121 ................

God Bless the internet.
It seems I am not alone !
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aduncan · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 22:15 Post subject:

So - I have been offered 33% Goodwill gesture.

I am saying, yes, fair enough but I WANT to keep the borked box.
Firstly to have it inspected, and see if I have a better claim for its collapse - or not -
Secondly to have it refurbed in due course and then flog it.

LR won't allow and say the £3,266 is essentially for an "Exchange" unit.

I still want an indy to look at it and give a report on the damage, but I don't know what I can do if I prove it to be a £20 part that has died (potentially) causing the £3k exchange / bill.

Any advice?
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Gribble · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:22 Post subject:

I would be asking exactly, in engineering terms what up with the old box as exchange would suggest there is some value in the old unit.

Also the diagnostics will say DTC fault code is xxxx just like a Trooper , I dont think it says - I Am Knacked - .

Is this the autobox or the drive to the axles ?
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markymoan · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:35 Post subject:

I'm with Gribble as Warranty or not the sale of goods act says 6yrs I think for defects not down to normal wear and tear, and for example my auto box (french GM) has done over 170k miles Shocked

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aduncan · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:53 Post subject:

Cheers - point noted on the Sales of Goods Act.

I think part of the issue is that Dealers / Main Garages as a whole do not get in to the gubbins of a sealed Auto Box - and this is the reasoning behind the huge cost - it is a straight replacement of the 'box'

I am asking for the DTC codes
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aduncan · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:50 Post subject:

DTC fault codes as, P0733-00 P0734-00 P0730-00 P2733-00 P0741-00

Confused

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aduncan · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:24 Post subject:

Was P2733 a typing error and should have read P0733?
The prefix (P) means Powertrain
The (0) means generic (1) would mean specific
The (7) means transmission

P0730 - Incorrect gear ratio
P0733 - Gear 3 incorrect ratio
P0734 - Gear 4 incorrect ratio
P0741 - Torque converter clutch circuit performance or stuck off
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aduncan · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:42 Post subject:

sorry - to correct :

P0730 - Incorrect gear ratio
P0733 - Gear 3 incorrect ratio
P0734 - Gear 4 incorrect ratio
P0741 - Torque converter clutch circuit performance or stuck off
P2733 - Transmission fluid pressure solenoid F - solenoid stuck on
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aduncan · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 0:45 Post subject:

Do you reckon Eithan H has a brother / twin who works as LR !

Very Happy

http://www.freel2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=122212#122212

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