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Wilky *****
Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 599 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:35 Post subject: Cheap onboard air |
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I converted this used Butane bottle into a portable air receiver to use for airing up my tyres after a day out.
I was using a small direct drive compressor, similar to a Viair, but it was struggling with the bigger tyres and I wanted something a lot quicker, it didn't cost much at all and works extremely well, I can fill it to 120psi (8.27bar) with my own compressor, it's rated at 27bar, it was only ever intended to be temporary as I'm sourcing a fancy regulator to use with my PCP diving bottle (323 bar) which obviously I'll have to pay to be filled, but will last a lot longer and I'll have the option of running air tools from it, but in the short term, I'm well happy with this.
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 14:20 Post subject: |
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Has anyone got details of using a dive bottle to fill tyres?
I've got a 300bar 12 ltr for my PCP's bolted in the back of the troop and seems a waste! _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Wilky *****
Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 599 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 19:15 Post subject: |
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I'm using one now, finding the DIN adaptor and regulator to drop to PSI rather than flow was a nightmare, but I wanted it safe to use air tools, you can do it without the regulator but I didn't fancy it.
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 0:21 Post subject: |
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Have you got the details of your setup then?
Like you say, don't want to try just opening the valve a little....putting about 3000 psi in a tyre might damage something.... _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Retro Pedro ***
Joined: 04 May 2010 Posts: 242 Location: South East
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:49 Post subject: |
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Touching on this subject, is there a feasible air storage facility/tank that would suffice for remotely using air tools?
At the mo, I can only use the air tools within reach of a mains electric supply for my small compressor. Having latched onto this post, I'm wondering if there's an answer in here somewhere that I could take a sufficient air supply to my lockup garage that hasn't got mains electric. |
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Wilky *****
Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 599 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:43 Post subject: |
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Jacksdad :- depends if your bottle is a DIN setting or an "A" clamp as to whether or not my set up would be compatable, mines a DIN and after some misinformation from Otter Watersports who told me the standard DIN is M25, I managed to find an adaptor, the DIN thread is actually 5/8", my regulator came from a mate who dismantles plant machinery for reconditioning, no idea what it's off, but you can remove the conical end from an Oxy bottle reg and mod it to fit the adaptor easy enough, it will reduce your pressure and they are rated at 300 bar, but the restriction will be to a flow, although I guess you could connect it temporarily to a gauge to work out what flow will give what pressure. My bottle is a 3.0 litre, so nice and compact, I don't use it for PCP's, I prefer a cartridge
Retro Pedro :- A 7 litre 300 bar divers bottle will run an air impact at 90 psi continuosly so I'm told, but don't quote me on that, the same bottle at 300 bar is supposed to hold enough air to fill a Cathedral, you'd be better off with a decent genny wouldn't you to run your compressor.
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Wilky *****
Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 599 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:44 Post subject: |
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I meant to say it will run an air impact continuously for 15 minutes |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 15:27 Post subject: |
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Cheers Wilky, mines a DIN so will investigate further
All fittings like these are the old Imperial threads, bit hard to grasp for a Metric man like me!
As for the PCP's I now use a pump, as long as I keep topping up the rifles its pretty easy and my Gunpower Stealth with 500ml resovoir only gets filled up every 2 years, don't use it much and it doesn't leak at all!
12ltrs @ 300bar is a lot of air....would re-inflate hundreds of tyres! _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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Wilky *****
Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 599 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 17:03 Post subject: |
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Item No 290466048158, this is what I've used as an adaptor, you can either leave it at 1/8 BSP or drill it out and tap it to 1/4 BSP, the pics don't show it, but it has the correct "O" ring seal at the base.
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Retro Pedro ***
Joined: 04 May 2010 Posts: 242 Location: South East
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 20:25 Post subject: |
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Wilky wrote: |
Retro Pedro :- A 7 litre 300 bar divers bottle will run an air impact at 90 psi continuosly so I'm told, but don't quote me on that, the same bottle at 300 bar is supposed to hold enough air to fill a Cathedral, you'd be better off with a decent genny wouldn't you to run your compressor.
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OK Wilky, just a thought |
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jacksdad1963 *******
Joined: 26 Jul 2011 Posts: 1939 Location: Oldham, Lancs
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:43 Post subject: |
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Cheers Wilky: I've got a 'whip' that will do that, it has a female end on that you then fit the rifle filler adaptor to
Think I'll get a Best Fittings catalogue and see what I can find _________________ 1999 3.0 TD Duty SWB
3" Body lift, 3" suspension lift, diff dropped, balljoints flipped, extended panhard, Tree sliders, Superwinch, +2" Pro Comps, 33" Mudders: Nearly finished! |
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