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Gribble *******
Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 8448 Location: Holset H221W
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 14:33 Post subject: Warn 8274-50 0n a MK4 |
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Well its on and working so its just the field testing to do now
It was a bit of an issue as to have it in close or out the front so on a mock up it looked very silly sat out front clear of the grille and not clever halfway .
Two more brackets going under the winch tray to the chassis rails to stiffen it up as well .
All comments welcome - the main one being the cooling as its a bit of a block to the rad but so was the bumper -
To get at the freewheel clutch is the grille off (2 screws) but I am making that Q/R and it winches out out as fast as you can go so I dont think thats a problem ,well not yet anyway ! Anybody want a good clean 24v husky supawinch as thats now redundant ?
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 15:12 Post subject: |
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Mmmmm,see what you mean about the rad !...If you have cooling probs(which I suspect you might),how about an electric push fan(Peugot 205GTI style and size) with a vent towards the O/S behind the winch,would give more even airflow across the width of the rad _________________ Khotso........... |
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gary820 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 2427 Location: Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 21:48 Post subject: |
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Looks good _________________ landcruiser 80 series 4.5, 35's/33's for road, 2inch lift, discreet winch, sliders/armour, factory lockers, stainless side exit +++++ |
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Jimbob *
Joined: 28 Jun 2008 Posts: 37 Location: High Wycombe
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:52 Post subject: |
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I have just been given a Warn-8274 and would love to fit it to my Mk4.
How's your one going Gribble? |
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Gribble *******
Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 8448 Location: Holset H221W
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:56 Post subject: |
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It works very well I can see why they are so popular for the winch challenge mob . nice and fast like 70 foot a min on no load rewind .
Out laning the other day and it pulls Kaz's 90 backward with 4 wheels locked on dry sand easy - oh I was stuck
Given an 8274 - yousa lucky man
However there are some problems to get round in putting it on a mk4 -
My original bracket was made for a lowline type winch - see my pics in mods which allthough it was a higher line pull its drum center was lower down than the warn by nearly 3 inches so the warn tends to flex the isuzu bumper mounts , not much but the live terminals on the warn motor can touch the bonnet catch under heavy pulling as it leans forward.
I did mod the bracket to stop this which meant welding plates to the chassis and the winch mount and it works fine now .
The other thing is the warn mounts 'feet first' so I used the normal 8274 bracket but to get it nice and snug and high I took off the Isuzu air con bracket ( air con rad has to go ) and trimmed the rad mount plate back a bit .This was as I wanted a good approach angle on the truck .
Also the winch is offset - i.e. the middle of the winch is not the middle of the drum which you want to have on the chassis centerline really .
If I did this again I would make a different style of winch mounting and not use the warn style mount but bolt the 8274 to the frame directly so it sits lower with an extended bit for the fairlead.
Cooling was ok as I had some worrys of it blocking the airflow , my tech 2 showed an increase in temp from 82c to 86c on normal use
Do get a Glyn Lewis drum guard or make one if you mount close in to the rad . Stops cable damage to the rad if you bunch up when winching .
I am sure you could buy an ARB or D44 bumper to get round this but wont be cheap . My target is to buy only what I cant make , not cos I am tight Robbo
It depends where you want to put it and how much bumper you want to keep ,I will stick some more pics of the latest version up today for you . _________________ 2 New Troopers ! |
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Jimbob *
Joined: 28 Jun 2008 Posts: 37 Location: High Wycombe
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 17:19 Post subject: |
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Hey thanks Gribble. Really got my sights set on fitting this winch now.
Was given the winch by my Dad, so he's keeping it in the family.
Your advice and pics will be a great help and much appreciated.
Tried to post pics of my trooper, either I'm not doing it right or you have to reach a minimum amount of posts.
You have your own tech2! Sweet. |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 19:05 Post subject: |
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"My target is to buy only what I cant make , not cos I am tight Robbo..."
Wouldn't dream of casting any nasturchions......... _________________ Khotso........... |
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Gribble *******
Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 8448 Location: Holset H221W
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 19:24 Post subject: |
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Here you go -
S'cuse poor uphand weld - outa practice .
So what I did was to weld on 2 x 10 mm thick by 50 mm wide x 75 mm long strips to the front of the chassis rails and weld em there the drill and tap m12 through the new brackets on the winch mount and into the chassis to get a solid mount .
I also put a wider base down for the warn bracket as it needs to be bolted at the back to stop the flexing by the brace strips .
The smart looking tow eyes are a old bracket cut in half out the scrap bin ! _________________ 2 New Troopers ! |
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DYLAN Moderator
Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 5115 Location: Chesterfield, Derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 21:33 Post subject: |
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Great Job _________________
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gary820 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 2427 Location: Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 22:31 Post subject: |
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Looks good mate
I should get dates for next years courses soon so i'll give you a shout when i'm down that way won't be in the truck but i'll come over for a social. _________________ landcruiser 80 series 4.5, 35's/33's for road, 2inch lift, discreet winch, sliders/armour, factory lockers, stainless side exit +++++ |
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aduncan Lifetime member
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 572 Location: YARM
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 0:43 Post subject: |
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I don;t need but I DO WANT a pro installtion of a Winch on mine.
You know, just in case...... _________________ If you google google it breaks the whole internet |
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Friff *
Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 14 Location: Barnsley, south yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 17:46 Post subject: |
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Have you had any serious force on this? Did it hold up well? |
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Gribble *******
Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 8448 Location: Holset H221W
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 19:48 Post subject: |
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Yes it took the full pull of the winch without bending or flexing once the extra brackets were put on ,got used in anger at several events .
That's about 3 1/2 ton pull on the bottom layer .
If I did one again it would be a different way though from what I've learned with my other winches and probably would not use the Warn mounting bracket set up it limits what you can do ,the stuff from Glynn Lewis 4x4 is better suited for fabricating onto a Trooper.
I just made that one from what I'd seen and thought I wanted after a the lowline winch I had before.
You can buy or have made some smart looking winch bumpers from a place up your way,quite a few lads on here have them .
No crush tube used the side bolts are threaded into the chassis on a Trooper but I tapped mine to M12 coarse as those metric fine bolts are a pain to find .
The main thing is have you got a high line or lowline winch and do you want the hidden in the bumper look or not ?
When you do mount the winch run a separate Earth cable to the battery for it,fried a bit of my loom by using the chassis to earth it. _________________ 2 New Troopers ! |
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Gribble *******
Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 8448 Location: Holset H221W
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Hunter Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Jul 2010 Posts: 614 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 23:25 Post subject: |
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I copied this mount (nodded to takes tube bumper)
I've had a buried disco on my end of it , and was dragging my own and Twister's troop .
So yes it holds up !!! _________________
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