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lordgaz *
Joined: 23 Mar 2020 Posts: 15 Location: Herefordshire
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 13:18 Post subject: Trooper 3.0TD engine issues - Tickover lumpy/ Poor Starting |
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Hi all
Re: Tropper Duty DT SWB MY2000
Following on from a previoud dual mass flywheel problem (swapped and fixed), the vehicle has never started perfectly - 4 or 5 seconds cranking to get it going, but once running, it was perfect.
More recently, it has been a little harder to start (sometimes starting, but sounding like it is only firing on 2 cylinders sort of sound and little or no response from the throttle) - Turn it off, and try again it will mostly start, but again more recently the tickover speed has been lower and it is close to stalling - Once hot, it was ok - Until today, when it started ok, but then stalled a few miles into the journey - Started again, (lumpy idle) and then stalled when coming to a junction.
Wife was driving it, so I had to go and rescue her. I cut the white wire (white wire trick) and managed to get it home ok without stalling (not good to drive these with the wire cut though I guess) - Trooper sat on the drive running just about ok I think -
I reconnected the white wire, and it again would not start well, and when it did, it stalled after a short time.
Reading the forums, there are a fair few possibilities for the reason, right?
ORPS (oil rail pressure sensor) - Would the vehicle even start at all if this was at fault?
SCV - (fuel suction control valve) - could it be related to this being faulty?
OPCV (oil pressure control valve)?
With the fact I can run, and when it does, it drives ok, what would you be thinking?
Cheers
Gaz |
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drew m ***
Joined: 08 Nov 2015 Posts: 154 Location: falkirk
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 17:45 Post subject: |
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I would be replacing orps sensor, you've more or less proved it's the culprit, go genuine don't buy Chinese of eebuygum.
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lordgaz *
Joined: 23 Mar 2020 Posts: 15 Location: Herefordshire
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 21:32 Post subject: |
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Hi Drew
Many thanks for the reply.
Just to add, it is noted that when it starts, the revs are low, and cannot be raised much (not above 1000rpm) when sat in neutral with hand brake on, but put in the clutch and select first, it will rev - put it back in neutral again, and it will not.
Any ideas why this is?
I had thought that a faulty ORPS sensor would prevent it starting - So it can be faulty and still allow starting, right? I have no problem with that! - Happy to change this sensor -
The other issue is getting the vehicle to someone with Tech 2 to tell the ECU of the change of sensor - Could I disconnect the battery for a period of time and get the same result (eg codes get wiped)
What is the long term outcome if Tech 2 is not used to update the ECU of the new sensor?
(Ps - I am near Hereford if anyone nearby has such a diag tool) |
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drew m ***
Joined: 08 Nov 2015 Posts: 154 Location: falkirk
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:18 Post subject: |
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Hi,
That's a strange one on the revs, maybe someone else can comment on that, the orps sensor can cause variable problems including non start to running reasonably well, usually check engine light will come on you've identified it with your white wire trick though, it will run ok with direct replacement but is better coded to ecu for optimal performance via tech 2. |
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lordgaz *
Joined: 23 Mar 2020 Posts: 15 Location: Herefordshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:24 Post subject: |
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drew m wrote: |
Hi,
That's a strange one on the revs, maybe someone else can comment on that, the orps sensor can cause variable problems including non start to running reasonably well, usually check engine light will come on you've identified it with your white wire trick though, it will run ok with direct replacement but is better coded to ecu for optimal performance via tech 2. |
Cheers mate. I am not getting any check engine lights currently (though it did when I cut the wire!) - I will replace the sensor anyway, and hope it does the trick (or at least eliminates one possibility) |
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