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rollinhome71 Newbie
Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Cornwall,Ontario,Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 14:09 Post subject: 2000lb Caravan Towing |
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Hi ..Am I able to tow a 2000lb and little more with a 92 Isuzu Trooper.Isit ok to pull ..I want to but the trooper just to pull the caravan.it is only 15 feet from start of ball hitch.it is about 7 feet high single axle...thks from the newbe.....john |
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 14:15 Post subject: |
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You wouldnt even know its there _________________ |
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 14:21 Post subject: |
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Moved to relevent section _________________ |
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Hard1 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 3544 Location: New Forest Old Git
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 16:37 Post subject: |
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In round figures you are just over halfway to the advised "common sense" towing limit which is 85% of the kerb weight of the vehicle, but looky here:
Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to eight passenger seats. (Category B)
Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (Maximum allowable Mass) (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.
Your caravan weighs 900lbs (410 kg) and your Trooper weighs approx 2,000 kg unladen - total: 2,410 kg or 2.4 tonnes, so yes, well within the limits. In fact using the guidelines above, you could tow a trailer/caravan weighing up to 1.5 tonnes with the Troop and a bit more depending on what your plate says is the max vehicle weight permitted.
But (there's always a but) In summer months you will find marked VOSA patrol cars (they are exactly the same as Highways Agency Rangies except they have VOSA across the hood) on main routes checking caravans and towing rigs and the like.
The one thing you must have in this situation (apart from everything mechanically sound), is the towing vehicle and caravan's "plates" properly attached to both. These plates show the kerb weight and MAM of the vehicle and trailer. Failure to have these in place can result in a prosecution. I haven't checked my Bighorn so not sure of what the limits are, but i think they must all have had plates for the SVA test when imported.
Make sure everything is ticketyboo and don't let the nasties get you... _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
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Hard1 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 3544 Location: New Forest Old Git
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 16:38 Post subject: |
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Sorry, forgot to add, "you won't even know it's there"
Cheers, Marky. That's dead right that is. _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
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rollinhome71 Newbie
Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Cornwall,Ontario,Canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 19:55 Post subject: 2000lb Caravan Towing |
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Thanks for the come backs.Markymoan and Hard 1..I wasn't sure how much the Trooper would tow.I already have a 1987 Ford Ranger p/u with a 2.3 V6 engine the p/u is in in really top condition.But the transmission just wouldn't pull my caravan...So I bought this 92 Trooper....Again thanks for the help....P.S. I live in Canada...No problem with weight marked on sides of trooper or caravan.. |
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mutlley *****
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 553
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 20:09 Post subject: |
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know where the plate is on the caravan, but wheres the plate on the bighorn. is it the vin plate under the bonnet (slam plate as we call it)?
you think being a so called professional driver i would know this! |
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Hard1 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 3544 Location: New Forest Old Git
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 21:59 Post subject: |
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Sorry, RollinHome - should have checked your address before going on about VOSA etc.
Interesting point about the "plate" on the 'horn, 'cos I don't know where it is either (or even if it's got one, but i think it must have for the intitial SVA inspection when imported). If we meet some pedantic (read picky) VOSA techie, we're going to need to know what the MAM of the 'horn is (I think MAM is the new buzz word for Gross Vehicle Weight as opposed to Kerb Weight)
I'll have a look tomorrow but i can't say I've seen one... _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
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MartQ *****
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 505 Location: Bardney, Lincolnshire
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 17:40 Post subject: |
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Mine hasn't got one. Was pointed out to me by my best mate who happens to be one of those guys from VOSA patrols. He said don't worry, they're only interested in dodgy foreign HGVs and pikeys and wouldn't pull a normal caravan/car outfit unless it was doing something really weird or had lights not working or something. _________________ 94 Big Horn 3.1 Lotus Auto
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Webby *****
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 536 Location: Suffolk
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:25 Post subject: |
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MartQ wrote: |
Mine hasn't got one. Was pointed out to me by my best mate who happens to be one of those guys from VOSA patrols. He said don't worry, they're only interested in dodgy foreign HGVs and pikeys and wouldn't pull a normal caravan/car outfit unless it was doing something really weird or had lights not working or something. |
Don't you believe it! Got a VOSA weighbridge very close to where my parents live and they are pulling loads of cars and trailers/caravans onto that. Infact they are often still there at 10pm pulling vehicles in.
Here is a brief description of the "plate".
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicles/vssafety/towingwithvehiclesfrequently4577 _________________ Isuzu Trooper SWB 3.0DT Commercial |
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Hard1 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 3544 Location: New Forest Old Git
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 18:06 Post subject: |
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Item No. 2 is a bit worrying. There's definitely no weight on the VIN plate. According to their rules, no weight displayed - no legal towing possible period.
Anyone know how we can deal with this legally?
Maybe I should contact VOSA directly with the question.... _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
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Grandad *******
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 1902 Location: NORFOLK
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 23:28 Post subject: |
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at the start of the page in Webby`s link it says
"Acar that has EC whole vehicle type approval"
so that puts the imports outside the rules as they either have no approval just mot if older than ten years when first imported or if under ten years SVA or ESVA
so keep on towing and Hard 1 don`t ask them any questions or there may be a lot of import owners throwing towbars at you |
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Hard1 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 3544 Location: New Forest Old Git
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:00 Post subject: |
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Act dumb say nowt I geddit....
Not hard really.... _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
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kwakattaker *
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 19 Location: hampshire
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 22:42 Post subject: caravan towing |
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I have been towing a 7.3mtr long caravan which weighs in at 1350kg with nothing in it I tow with a LWB3.1 trooper which makes light work of it I think you would struggle to find a better tow car. |
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Hard1 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 3544 Location: New Forest Old Git
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 22:50 Post subject: |
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You're not wrong. Last year I towed a 30' long 3,500 kgs ex Police recruiting caravan (ironic eh?) down from the Midlands and although it tried to overtake me when I was doing 65 mph down hill on the A34 at one stage, we both survived, and I know it could have coped with a much heavier load.... _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
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