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markymoan *******
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:46 Post subject: Auto V's Manual Off Road |
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This has allways been a can of worms BUT.
After spending all day in an Auto on some difficult lanes (And owning a manual)
Where the hell is the engine braking
Is there a magic button to make an auto work when you need 1mph downhill?
If so we need to know because brakes are pretty errrrrrr fun when it gets real slippy
This is serious BTW _________________ |
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rabbitt Moderator
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1192 Location: Nuneaton , midlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:57 Post subject: |
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The last 3 of mine have been auto's , all 3 have gone off road and have never encountered a problem ( gear realated ) at times i have felt gratefull for not haveing a clutch to contend with to be honest. |
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greasemonkey Lifetime member
Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 1024 Location: bury st edmunds, suffolk
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:16 Post subject: |
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You need to manually select 1st gear or low if the gearbox doesn't drop down on its own
The advantage is you have no clutch to dip
cheers
Steve _________________ Isuzu Vehicross 3.2 V6 The Silver Bullet
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:::Matski::: Lifetime member
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 14:23 Post subject: |
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They are better for climbing in allot of cases! I would prefer a manual but loads use autos for challenge trucks and the like. _________________ Front Aussie Locker - Rear LSD - Petrol Diffs
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markymoan *******
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 17:03 Post subject: |
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I'll have to do some more research, maybe put an auto and a manual together with the same driver _________________ |
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sambrads Guest
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 17:57 Post subject: |
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Just tried this today on a steep hill popped it into L gear it did gear down but i was still travelling at 12 - 15 mph ... does switching the over drive off help and also when off road would low ratio box help slow things down on a steep decent, i found myself on the brakes way to much yesterday.
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markymoan *******
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 18:05 Post subject: |
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Paul, even in low range and L it was running away, but having only ever driven a manual 4x4 I aint got a clue to whats normal on an auto _________________ |
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greasemonkey Lifetime member
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 18:25 Post subject: |
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Had this mentioned before on a different topic about the auto diesels have very little engine braking compared to the petrols
In low box and lo gear mine moves at a slow crawl even going down hill i get great control just using the throttle pedal
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Steve _________________ Isuzu Vehicross 3.2 V6 The Silver Bullet
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sambrads Guest
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 19:40 Post subject: |
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Yeh thats it Mark it was running away from us even in low box made for some hairy moments yesterday has anyone any suggestions to the reason's why engine braking differs so much ? sorry if thats a silly question
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DAVID's J99P Lifetime member
Joined: 30 Oct 2009 Posts: 1614 Location: UK's Horse Doping Capital
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 20:15 Post subject: Re: Auto V's Manual Off Road |
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Is there a magic button to make an auto work when you need 1mph downhill?
Is't that the hill decent control thingy that the lawn rovers are fitted with???? _________________ aka x66dag
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:::Matski::: Lifetime member
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 20:56 Post subject: |
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sambrads wrote: |
Yeh thats it Mark it was running away from us even in low box made for some hairy moments yesterday has anyone any suggestions to the reason's why engine braking differs so much ? sorry if thats a silly question
thx
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If you are talking about needing the brakes down the steps on the second part of the first lane, then yeah you will need to ride the brakes manual or auto. On a standard 2 to 1 transfer box you will never go down something like that on engine braking, that would be madness! Auto or manual you will be riding the brakes. On smother steeper descents yeah, but not of steps like that. _________________ Front Aussie Locker - Rear LSD - Petrol Diffs
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markymoan *******
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 21:00 Post subject: |
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No Matt, we are on about engine braking, allthough watching a truck go down steps without brakes would be a sight to be remembered _________________ |
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:::Matski::: Lifetime member
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 21:05 Post subject: |
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Yeah, got that, but what bit was it running away on? _________________ Front Aussie Locker - Rear LSD - Petrol Diffs
2" Lift - 1" Body lift - +2" shocks - 32" KL71s
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DAVID's J99P Lifetime member
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 21:10 Post subject: |
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Hi Mat
On one of the last down hill lanes you and chris were on about not using your brakes for as long as possible,
Had I not been riding the brakes all the way down i'd have over taken the lot of you. I was in 4L and L
Think marky and tim and already left before these lanes. _________________ aka x66dag
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markymoan *******
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 21:20 Post subject: |
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In places where 2nd low would be fine in a manual 3.1, Or is the engine braking so good on the 2.8 and 3.1 manuals that I'm being fussy
Maybe I am because I also find the 3.0 manual to lack in the same area _________________ |
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