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7.5Te Lorries (sorry - Horseboxes!)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:04    Post subject: 7.5Te Lorries (sorry - Horseboxes!) Reply with quote

So, I seem to be folding and the missus may be looking to upgrade from a Horse Trailer to a Horse Wagon.
These Lady Day Van things seem pointless so it is to be a  3.5-7.5Te type with a little living area.

It seems old wagons never die - they become HorseBoxes.
Looking I guess to be about 10-14k and there are a good few tidy ones for that.

So I am surprised that Insurances seem reasonable by other threads comments I have read. (circa £300) and it seems the MPG is fairly *beep*, but I guess it won't be doing Masses of miles - but I read of the costs of the yearly "plate" ?!? I assume this is like a Commercial MOT ?
What's the big deal ?

So pardon the pun, horses for courses on the different Box styles, but what about the Wagon itself ?
Any good ones / dogs ?

Ford Iveco ? MAN ? Leyland DAF ? Bedfords?  what is the lowdown on Reliability and Running costs of each ?

I figure a few of you will be running similar type set ups for Work / Motorsports etc?
What's to say on these for example ?

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/marketplace/classified/8-details-horses-trailers-and-horse-boxes_248319.htm

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/marketplace/classified/8-details-horses-trailers-and-horse-boxes_250981.htm

http://www.horsedeals.co.uk/horseboxes,-trailers-and-tractors-for-sale/horseboxes-for-sale/Iveco-3-Horse-Box__27-7-10-346216


cheers !

(although I think I don't actually want to know :spin:)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recomend a Leyland-Daf with a Cummins engine. Bulletproof.  Assuming you are looking at a 7.5 tonne vehicle.
£175 a year tax last time I looked too!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Laird wrote:
I would recomend a Leyland-Daf with a Cummins engine. Bulletproof.  Assuming you are looking at a 7.5 tonne vehicle.
£175 a year tax last time I looked too!


yes I am figuring that an 'up to' 7.5Te wagon is where we should be - that will be on Drivers licenses from pre-97 and C1 if I am no mistaken?

So - a DAF & Cummins - out of interest which Cummins would that be? Not an LT10 by any chance  [rubs hand with glee at the thought] - thats what we run in our Diesel Hydraulic PP's at works so knowldege and spares would be good !

So as Model numbers go- what would that be?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ford everytime for me and no3 looks sweet  Cool
Yes the leylandiey are workhorses but they are dogs to drive with recycled bus seats, looking at the milage on no3 its due its first service  Laughing
did I mention that I like no3  Question
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always buy THIS You might have to sell the horses to buy it though Shocked  Shocked  Shocked  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing You could live in that thing full time  Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, 'up to' license.  I'm not sure which Cummins engine, I just know that the one under me was RELIABLE!
The Daf-Leyland was a good chassis too.  Easy to drive and good visibility.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we are looking at a choice of engines......I will plump for a 6/71 Detroit Diesel!  Just for the sound!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to think a Bedford TK was nice to drive until I drove something more refined like a Ford  Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marky -

number 3 :
http://www.horsedeals.co.uk/horseboxes,-trailers-and-tractors-for-sale/horseboxes-for-sale/Iveco-3-Horse-Box__27-7-10-346216

Does look pretty interesting to me too. Local, Cheap (ish?) and a little spit and polish before the horse *beep* all over it and it could be a tidy little number !
Change out the cupboard doors for new Screwfix specials, and a tin of Hammerite in the rear on the Iron work and could be good.

I just know *beeb* all about Wagons, ad don't want a Plum !

Are any right dogs etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 23:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off roading!!!!  I used to go across the North Yorkshire moors wit a Bedford RL!  And a trailer!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 0:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its plated then there is no dodgy plates its done by the gov so thats piece of mind, it looks like it was proper made from new so I would look for the same things you do with a caravan, damp patches and the internal structure.
Best thing is to take a horsy person with you that knows the ins and outs of the box and where they rot etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 0:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

You see. Eventualy the voice of sense! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 0:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear.

Just set the ball rolling and emailed them !
This has got to be worth some beer tokens / passes from SWMBO !!!

The only fight I see now is she will argue to get rid of the Trooper - we bought for pulling a Horse Trailer !
It has wonderfully fitted a gap for me though as a Dog / Winter / General purpose hack that compliments my MK1 MX5 - !

There could be spilt milk, but it does seem a bit daft.... the two of us and:

Freelander 2 - for all things smart long distance.
Trooper for the opposite !  Very Happy
my MX5 because I have had it since 98 and it is my little Triggers Broom and I love it as my general daily drive.
And a Sodding Big Wagon for Dobin.


Barking mad !
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 0:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those wagon things are full of fleas and foot and mouth and blue thingy, stick with the towable one, it makes sense if its parked up most of the time  Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know, oddly enough I was more or less always against the purchase of a Wagon before because it seems wasted to have it sat therefore so long unused in comparison to the Trooper / Trailer comb that has the Trooper used 3 to 4 times a week, and the trailer once a week.

Perhaps a little extravagant.
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