Isuzu Trooper Owners Club UK™

[super trooper 101]

Mates mondeo is playing up.

he gets a big rattly noise on start, very knocky, ran like this fine for ages. started losing power resently alot of black smoke, and he said lose of turbo boost.

EGR? just guessing, can i do DTC test like we can on the trooper?

cheers all

[Google]

[badendesigns]

He's not running it on WVO is he?
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99/00 Frontera B 3.2 V6

79 XS1100

82 XS1100 midnight

87 454 LTD

Lovin it!!!!!

Wear sunscreen

LTM 000103

[super trooper 101]

no, just stuff morrisons sell on

[badendesigns]

Had a friend that ran a Mondeo on WVO and it killed it. It seems that the engine in the Mondeo is not very good with anything but diesel.
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99/00 Frontera B 3.2 V6

79 XS1100

82 XS1100 midnight

87 454 LTD

Lovin it!!!!!

Wear sunscreen

LTM 000103

[super trooper 101]

mmmm. maybe its just because its a ford, everyone knows what it stands for  

no answers about the self diag?

[Gribble]

Depends on the year but should be an OBD port there , I think its under the ashtray in fords .

Sounds like an injector , try cracking each pipe off at idle and see if the engine note changes .
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2 New Troopers !

[super trooper 101]

ok cheers gribble, will have a look ovet the weekend

[Wirdy]

Injectors normally.  Budget on £80 each - cheaoer than troopers ones!

They need coding as well.  There are firms that recondition them too - try a delphi injector refurb specialist.

The mondeo TDCI injection system is fragile, if your pal wants to lose hours of an evening there are loads of horror stories on mondeo forums. .  I have one but mine has been okay as I use cleaner in every tank and I'm on 118k at present.

Try some BG244 before doing anything, it's worth the small investment if it unclogs the bad injector(s), but if a leak-off test shows a failed injector there's no alternative to refurb / replace I'm afraid.
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2001 3.0 DT LWB Duty - Dragon Green Metallic.

[super trooper 101]

great stuff, i  will get him to try the injector cleaner.

Did try tracking them off while on tick over but the car stalled instantly. up the revs and did it, got showered in diesel    

the note changed but was the same on all 4.

Found a split in the pipe from the egr valve to, so going to replace that.

Thanks again folks.

[Wirdy]

Yeah, go careful as the diesel is at a huge pressure from the pump onto the rail  

You didn't say what diesel your mate has but assuming TDCI or TDDI, the EGR is probably gummed up anyway along with the inlet manifold.  It's a 2 hour job to take it off and degunk it with whatever scraper tools you can get into all the nooks and crannies and plenty of white spirit or whatever solvent you have most of.  

I ended up blanking off my EGR with a plate off fleabay to stop further gunk but this is only suitable if he has a vacuum operated EGR; if it's the electrical one (you'll see wires going to it on later TDCI's) then you can fit a blank with a small hole in the centre to reduce gunk whilst keeping the ECU happy.  Plenty of info on 'talkford' forums.
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2001 3.0 DT LWB Duty - Dragon Green Metallic.

[super trooper 101]

cheers wirdy,

yep tdci, spoke to the man at the local ford garage and he said about taking it off and cleaning. got the new pipe so going to have a go at it tom,

will report back. CArnt believe how much pressure there was   oh well lesson learnt. how much i pump in every time it goes bang? any one konw? just looking for useless info

[DYLAN]

Enough pressure to pump it under your skin an do some real damage i imagine I was once warned while playing with a derv boat engine that it could kill me with the injector pressure     I had the injector out and spraying in my hand, Never have since.
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2002 S-TYPE JAGUAR 3.0 SPORT

[Wirdy]

[super trooper 101]

replaced the pipe today, turbo back to full power and no black smoke.

he is going to leave the injectors for now,

Thanks for your help guys