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Redneckriceburner **
Joined: 29 Aug 2011 Posts: 120 Location: Lode Lane Solihull.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 16:31 Post subject: |
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This is before I made the mods to the a-frame which was my limiting factor, running 37" tyres (3ft 1") tall and you can get another one under the back bumper, some people have questioned when I have said you can have the back bumper over your head (6ft) and the wheels still on the floor but have proved it many times.
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Twister Moderator
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 2340 Location: Stockport
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 17:03 Post subject: |
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I suppose the reason my springs are so good at what they do is the fact that they are dual / progressive rate. With the top 3 coils closed they're good for heavy load carrying, but off road they have that extra travel when needed. They also compress just nicely too when articulating.
I've always been happy with the way mine behaves, so I've never really had the need to look at any other set-up tbh.
If the LR spring seat change is straight forward, then that would be the logical way to go, purely because of the huge spring choice it opens up . _________________
"Tongue-tied and Twisted; just an Earth-bound misfit, I..." - PF
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Pete_88 *******
Joined: 06 Dec 2011 Posts: 1302 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 17:09 Post subject: |
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It seems a very good option, literally just bolt the spring seats to the existing ones. Just want to make sure I get the right springs, hence the questions, does anyone know the rate of a standard trooper spring? _________________ 2000 3.0 Trooper Duty swb |
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Twister Moderator
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 2340 Location: Stockport
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 18:05 Post subject: |
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I've just tried looking for that info, and tbqh I can't seem to find it . I do know the LWB rate will be different to the SWB, as I have heard mentioned that fitting LWB springs to a SWB gives about 1" lift.
However, I did discover this on Planetisuzoo which is interesting....
http://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=59946
And, I've just noticed about 1/3 of the way down page 2 are spring rates listed for stock Trooper and various OME springs ( post by Proptied )
Spring Rate, Length, Bar Diameter
Trooper Stock Rear: 180lbs
OME 912: Couldn't find.
OME 919: 200-280lbs, 17", 15mm
OME 929: 240-300lbs, 16.5", 16mm
Grand Cherokee (ZJ) V8 Front: 140lbs, 18.4", 15mm
OME 934: 160lbs, 19.6", 14mm
I don't know if our stock rates would be the same, coz our American cousins do tend to prefer softer suspension set-ups as stock.
OME actually state on their website that their springs are progressive rate. _________________
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 18:49 Post subject: |
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Bloody ell Gribble,you have been busy,and what with the donkey transplant should be pretty awesome
Ere ya goes everything about OME stuff,including spring data(from Devon 4x4 site)
OME _________________ Khotso........... |
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Twister Moderator
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 2340 Location: Stockport
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 19:03 Post subject: |
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What springs you running Ted , 912's or 919's ? _________________
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 19:11 Post subject: |
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Red Robbo wrote: |
Bloody ell Gribble,you have been busy,and what with the donkey transplant should be pretty awesome
Ere ya goes everything about OME stuff,including spring data(from Devon 4x4 site)
OME |
The hawk-eyed amongst you will notice that Mk IV's upto & post 2001 show different specs for OE spring rates 160/180
and recomend different +100kg springs 2919/2929.
I'm running OME 919's OME shocks all round,very balanced ride IMHO but,with coil spacers you effectively raise the hitch point for the shock and therfore lose shock down travel the same as the spacer width.Can'y find an OME shock to match so the existing one's will shortly have the top eye lifted to gain back the dead space and give more twist at the rear.
However..........still won;t be like Twisty's or Gribbles's........but enough _________________ Khotso........... |
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gary820 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 2427 Location: Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 19:20 Post subject: |
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I've been blamed for worse
Looking good mate you swapped the tyres then, they any good? Front axle all ok now?
Looks like I'm gonna have to take a trip down soon and see how they compare _________________ landcruiser 80 series 4.5, 35's/33's for road, 2inch lift, discreet winch, sliders/armour, factory lockers, stainless side exit +++++ |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 19:33 Post subject: |
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gary820 wrote: |
I've been blamed for worse
Looking good mate you swapped the tyres then, they any good? Front axle all ok now?
Looks like I'm gonna have to take a trip down soon and see how they compare |
Can I watch _________________ Khotso........... |
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Gribble *******
Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 8448 Location: Holset H221W
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 20:33 Post subject: |
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Hmm , Robbo if your good and do as yer told then yes . but oi suspects you be having a go as well
Yes the wheels n tyres went on ok Gary and done the diff ok ,also done the disk brake back axle swap too .
Only did the TV 4x4 driveround on em so far but they seem ok and get traction in the sand without excavating the loose away like the simex seem too . The shorter rope on the winch got rid of the bunching issue too so the wide drum is being made now .
I would like to arrange this 'clash of the tight uns ' if possible when Thames Valley 4x4 have a event on as they are an all marques club and a good bunch of lads .
I rekon them 295's would be a bit stiff off road Pete but try em and see ? There's a pair of mediums on eebuygum near you for 25 quid . _________________ 2 New Troopers ! |
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Red Robbo Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 4129 Location: Where ever I happen to be in my imagination but mainly Far East Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 20:52 Post subject: |
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Gribble wrote: |
Hmm , Robbo if your good and do as yer told then yes . but oi suspects you be having a go as well |
Weeelllll,maybe just a little try
Ps.....Getting good at doing as I'm told......Tablets _________________ Khotso........... |
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Pete_88 *******
Joined: 06 Dec 2011 Posts: 1302 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 21:18 Post subject: |
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Thanks for that mr g, just sent the guy a message telling him I'll pick them up this weekend if the price is right. _________________ 2000 3.0 Trooper Duty swb |
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Twister Moderator
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 2340 Location: Stockport
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 21:30 Post subject: |
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Ah, TV 4x4
Possibly the very first gathering of ITOC members was at one of their events, many moons ago.....
October 2005 _________________
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Pete_88 *******
Joined: 06 Dec 2011 Posts: 1302 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:51 Post subject: |
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Off to pick them springs up now, the rate on them is only 149lbs so I reckon they might be a bit soft but for £25 it's worth a go! _________________ 2000 3.0 Trooper Duty swb |
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Pete_88 *******
Joined: 06 Dec 2011 Posts: 1302 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 16:23 Post subject: |
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Big thanks to gribble, the springs are brand new and are just over 2" bigger then standard hd springs. I've ordered some seats spring seats so I'll post more pics when I get them fitted, fingers crossed the rate on them will be ok. _________________ 2000 3.0 Trooper Duty swb |
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