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dxmedia · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 22:17 Post subject:

With a 2" lift the ball joint flip will pretty much counter the camber alterations - so worth doing.

Stick a couple of 2" spring spacers in the back, or someone is selling some old man emu ones on the for sale section at the moment, and that's a +2" lift for £80

You will be able to get 33" tyres under a 2" lift. As for patrol wheels - dunno Wink

I managed to get some 32"s under a stock height monterey with no rubbing but those rims have a weird offset.
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burlie · * Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 11 Location: east sussex

cheers thanks very much

burlie · * Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 11 Location: east sussex

hi
i am currently having some 2'' spacers made for the rear springs as i can not find any cheap options in that hight,
all being ok i will post some pics.
Also does any one know what wheels will fit in the arches with a 2'' lift i tried some nissan patrol rims today but they stuck out loads and they are only on 265/70/16 tyres.
i read some where that l200 wheels fit not to sure if they have got the same offset as these patrol ones can any one help
cheers

dxmedia · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 21:30 Post subject:

the 8" wide frontera rims sit very nicely with 31x10.5's I've got them on at the moment and the rims sit flush with the outer lip of the wheel arch.
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burlie · * Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 11 Location: east sussex

do the 15inch wheels clear the brake calipers ok.
are the alloy or steels.
cheeers

dxmedia · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 21:49 Post subject:

I've 15's on at the moment, and everything clears fine.
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burlie · * Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 11 Location: east sussex

i am a mecanic so i kind of know what i am doing but what you lot know about troopers is scary!
its easier to come on here for a hour than keep trying to work things out my self, you all save my lots of time and money
nice one

AD · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:53 Post subject:

Hi, i got an unexpected lift when the troop went for a mot, the back springs were shot so i asked the mecanic to fit heavduty ones for carring lots of weight cost me £100 for springs.

I have adjusted the torsion bars, and ive just been reading about this ball joint flip, can someone explain "negative camber" (apoligies for bieng thick Rolling Eyes

) have not flipped the balljoint (yet) and the steering is a little strange Confused

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Chris B · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:37 Post subject:

Negative camber is when the wheels are like this \ / whne viewed from the front of the car. Anything up to 2" of lift you shouldnt need to touch the ball joints.
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dxmedia · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:33 Post subject:

/ \ is negative camber
\ / is positive camber Wink

As you lower the bottom wishbone the arc is slightly greater than the upper wishbone, and this causes the camber to alter slightly by 'pushing' the bottom of the wheel out slightly. If you flip the ball joint, at a 2" lift on the tortion bars, near as damn it, it will put the camber back to where it should be. Flipping the ball joints will give you about another 10mm of lift though, so will need lowering on the tortion bars, which will put your camber back again Wink

It really makes a difference when your going for the 2 1/2" - 4" lift and your not too concerned about tracking...

Best thing to do is get on dead level ground (tescos car park??) and sit in front of your truck and have a look what's going on - I think that it should be about 1 degree negative camber for stock set up??? some one might be able to confirm that.
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Chris B · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:31 Post subject:

dxmedia · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:35 Post subject:

No...

Was pre-first cup o tea in the morning if that's any excuse Embarassed

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paul higgi · ** Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 65

camber is put on for the roads we drive so keeps your tyres flat to the camber on the road, so how come discoverys dont have it

:::Matski::: · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 22:02 Post subject:

Troopers don't either. Bang in the middle is what you want to aim for.
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AD · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 23:41 Post subject:

Thanks for advice, the rear is up about 2"+(can occasionally hear the uj's grumble when goin over a hump), have screwed the front up to 1 1/2 - 2" max, i dont need the lift, but as it is off road every other day it is usefull.

It handles much better but the steering is different, not better, not worse, just different Confused

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