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darren m ******
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 921 Location: nottinghamshire
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:18 Post subject: another oil question |
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just been out on a 45 mile round trip and noticeing that my oil pressure is not getting up to normal tick over level ie around 28-30 on the dial when warm .
it starts off ok around 55--60 + when cold , but now when warm it is reading about half way between 0 and 30 mark ( approx 15-20 ) when ticking over.
i,ve just checked the oil and the level looks ok ie between the 2 dots ( cooled down , but still warm ).
the engine runs ok , sometimes a bit tappy , but plenty of power.
should i just change the oil , or is there any thing else to look out for.
the engine is the 3.1 TD model , and the oil pressure when warm and at idle is /was allways at the 30 mark.
any thoughts
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jonkem ******
Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 883 Location: Bedfordshire, UK
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:02 Post subject: |
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The idle pressure is nothing to worry about, but keep your eye on it anyway. 3.1s can sound a bit tappy but until it gets loud theres no real need to adjust the clearances.
Change the oil & filter every 3000. Buy a big drum of oil & get filters from Milners.
www.milneroffroad.com _________________ 1994 KZJ70 Cruiser (currently filling the garage and causing some head scratching)
1988 MKI 3.1td Hybrid Van (Ex Bobtail)
1991 SWB Fronty 2.8td Hybrid
2000 Astra Estate (work)
2006 VXR Astra
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darren m ******
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 921 Location: nottinghamshire
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:41 Post subject: |
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when should you worry about oil pressure readings ?.
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darren m ******
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 921 Location: nottinghamshire
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:04 Post subject: |
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the reason i ask is that when i bought the motor the chap said
" it as got a good oil pressure reading , thats the first thing to look for "
the engines done 194,000
whats a good pressure reading and whats not !!!!!!!!?
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jonkem ******
Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 883 Location: Bedfordshire, UK
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 19:36 Post subject: |
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It's reasonable to be up around 80psi when cold and you will see postings on here with readings down around 15psi when hot, both figures at tickover. Someone quoted Isuzu figures a while back and they were wide open.
When I'm looking to buy an engine, I'm more interested in how quickly from start up (hot & cold) the pressure builds up & how constant it stays. For example one of mine runs at 25psi on tickover 60psi running speed and does that all day long everyday, so I consider that normal. Another never drops below 50psi and will run at 80psi when hot and I consider that normal as well
I would guess the warning light is set at around 5psi so that low on tickover would give me cause for concern but not panic if it went up to 50psi when driving
Just be certain to keep the oil filter changed and use the correct grade of oil at all times. _________________ 1994 KZJ70 Cruiser (currently filling the garage and causing some head scratching)
1988 MKI 3.1td Hybrid Van (Ex Bobtail)
1991 SWB Fronty 2.8td Hybrid
2000 Astra Estate (work)
2006 VXR Astra
MK1 SR Nova |
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 19:41 Post subject: |
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If it was down to just an oil light, non of these oil pressure threads would be here.
I put it down to to much info for the normal driver _________________ |
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hagar Newbie
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 5 Location: new zealand
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:53 Post subject: sump pan |
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ok guys (and girls)
i have tracked an oil leak down to the sump pan gaskety thing (the metal lower part of the sump ) the bolts weren't tight...
the question is is there a torque setting for all those little 10mm bolts..
i have a really bad habbit of snapping bolts and stripping threads
any help is greatly appricated
cheers hagar _________________ '93 swb irmscher bighorn 3.1tdi |
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frank sucevic Lifetime member
Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1037 Location: rotherham
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 19:41 Post subject: Re: sump pan |
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hagar wrote: |
ok guys (and girls)
i have tracked an oil leak down to the sump pan gaskety thing (the metal lower part of the sump ) the bolts weren't tight...
the question is is there a torque setting for all those little 10mm bolts..
i have a really bad habbit of snapping bolts and stripping threads
any help is greatly appricated
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2 points to note hager 10 mm spanner size are 6mm bolt size the correct torque setting is inch pounds not foot pounds or the metric equal you will struggle to get a inch pound torque wrench at handy money.use a quarter drive socket set and just go steady but equal pressure once you have the touch it stays with you Dont put a 10inch bar on em , ickle rachet is enough. |
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 20:08 Post subject: |
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Frank is right, just dont give it that extra bit thats the snap bit _________________ |
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Lynn Johnson ***
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 225 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 20:49 Post subject: |
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wow ! inch/ pound Tq wrench hubbys say ours is in the workshop ( somewhere ) been using that new fangled newton/metre stuff for a while on the newer farm gear, then they started on Torque angle gauges. back to the long bar he says
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hagar Newbie
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 5 Location: new zealand
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 23:14 Post subject: |
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thanks for the help guys but no one actualy gave me the figures....
i would rather do it with a torque wrench as im really nervous about stripping the threads in the sump..
and it's really not cool going to a mechanic and saying "can you please tighten these widdle biddy bolts im a bit scared" _________________ '93 swb irmscher bighorn 3.1tdi |
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 23:26 Post subject: |
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I posted the manual for the 2.8, ive no doubt the settings are the same,
I dig the link out. _________________ |
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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